Filling In PIP Form For A Friend

kah22
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edited 19 December 2017 at 5:25PM in Benefits & tax credits
I’m helping my friend with her PIP form. She suffers from Bipolar 1. In essence we are talking the questions over but I’m actually doing the writing and forming the sentences and paragraphs for her because she’s on a bipolar low at the moment and is not fit to fill in the form herselfj

The problem I’m having is in how to phrase an answer e.g in Q 12a I could write

Because of my bipolar I have problems in motivating myself in preparing food and can be a danger to myself as I have injured myself in the past

OR ALTERNATIVELY

Because of Name she has problems in motivating herself to prepare food and she can be a risk to herself as she has injured herself in the past

Basically the same wording except it has changed from the First to the Second person

We have prepared detailed answers to each question. Most answers easily cover 1/2 typed foolscap. Not something that a person who is currently fighting bipolar depression could easily do and certainly something an assessor could mark you down upon. So how do I actually introduce the reply? Is there a phrase I use

Many thanks

I should say that she won’t see a CAB official or someone like that because she thinks they are busy bodies

Comments

  • pmlindyloo
    pmlindyloo Posts: 13,083 Forumite
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    I think this is a very useful guide for completing the PIP form so you may want to use it to add things.

    https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/benefits/sick-or-disabled-people-and-carers/pip/help-with-your-claim/fill-in-form/

    As regards the form to use you can fill it in using 'I' and then use the additional information page (15 I think) to say that a friend has helped complete the form because.......................
  • Ames
    Ames Posts: 18,459 Forumite
    Welfare rights advisors refuse to do the actual writing now because apparently the assessor asks who's writing it is. I think there's a part on the form that asks if you've filled in the form for someone else, so to be on the safe side I'd use third person and explain why. Needing someone else to do the form backs up the need for help and support due to lack of motivation IMO.
    Unless I say otherwise 'you' means the general you not you specifically.
  • pmlindyloo
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    Ames wrote: »
    Welfare rights advisors refuse to do the actual writing now because apparently the assessor asks who's writing it is. I think there's a part on the form that asks if you've filled in the form for someone else, so to be on the safe side I'd use third person and explain why. Needing someone else to do the form backs up the need for help and support due to lack of motivation IMO.

    Not heard of this myself.

    I am not sure that one way or the other is correct because......

    If you say 'name' can........this implies that you are making an assumption about the claimant especially if you use words that are not part of their natural vocabulary.

    If you use 'I' then you need to be careful that you repeat their words rather than your own. So, for instance, would your friend say 'I can't be bothered to eat because............. rather than 'I do not have the motivation'............?

    Hope that makes sense!

    It is quite a skilled job to ferret out what to write based on your friend's answers but IMO keep it simple and, most importantly, send medical evidence to support what is being said.

    Good luck!
  • System
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    I think second person, but make sure to say it was wrotten out by yourself, you could also write a letter detailing your friend's limitations, i know they mostly go on official evidence but it could help,my bf wrote a few paragraphs on how my bipolar affects me and the things he has to do to help me.
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