Bargain co's not listed on MSE but found on Uswitch

mbmonty

I was disappointed to not find suppliers you can't switch to via MSE on the MSE energy comparison, that is why I always do a check on Uswitch and other sites.

I did such a search on Uswitch at the beginning of 2017 and found Solarplicity, I have been meaning to switch to them, at the time they promised to save me around £250.

I keep on top on my energy usage currently they are approximately

3,750 kWh Gas
1,400 kWh Elec

My biggest saving with be with getting rid of the Standing Charge.

In March the unit rate was higher than current supplier and but now it is just a bit lower as current supplier as they increased rate.

Solarplicity do not estimate such a big saving now, I think £185, yet my standing charge was £200 and they offer £21 dual fuel in first year (should be every year).

They also estimate LED bulbs will save 11% of my electricty, I can't see this being the case as I already use low energy bulbs for most of place. I think they are mostly 7w maybe one 11w.

Yet for some reason Solarplicity are no longer on Uswitch, staff were saying it was a company decision, but I suspect it is something to do with estimates, using that 11%.

I do not know why it is necessary, based on current usage I would go from £581.95 to £234.52 which is from £48.50 to £28.95 a month, I think with the 11% they quote £26 odd.

Even if I increased my usage I would be able to increase Gas from 3,750 kWh to 6,500 kWh
and Electricity from 1,400 kWh Elec to 2,050 kWh and pay no more than I am now, which some people think is low already).

footyguy

mbmonty wrote: »

I was disappointed to not find suppliers you can't switch to via MSE on the MSE energy comparison, that is why I always do a check on Uswitch and other sites.

I did such a search on Uswitch at the beginning of 2017 and found Solarplicity, I have been meaning to switch to them, at the time they promised to save me around £250.

I keep on top on my energy usage currently they are approximately

3,750 kWh Gas
1,400 kWh Elec

My biggest saving with be with getting rid of the Standing Charge.

In March the unit rate was higher than current supplier and but now it is just a bit lower as current supplier as they increased rate.

Solarplicity do not estimate such a big saving now, I think £185, yet my standing charge was £200 and they offer £21 dual fuel in first year (should be every year).

They also estimate LED bulbs will save 11% of my electricty, I can't see this being the case as I already use low energy bulbs for most of place. I think they are mostly 7w maybe one 11w.

Yet for some reason Solarplicity are no longer on Uswitch, staff were saying it was a company decision, but I suspect it is something to do with estimates, using that 11%.

I do not know why it is necessary, based on current usage I would go from £581.95 to £234.52 which is from £48.50 to £28.95 a month, I think with the 11% they quote £26 odd.

Even if I increased my usage I would be able to increase Gas from 3,750 kWh to 6,500 kWh
and Electricity from 1,400 kWh Elec to 2,050 kWh and pay no more than I am now, which some people think is low already).

Latest position from the regulator means that energy PCWs are now allowed to decide themselves whether or not to include suppliers.

If uSwitch have decided to adopt this new found freedomn, you may wish to reconsider future use of them.

MSE say they plan to continue to show ALL suppliers & tariffs on their site, but have admitted that the odd, small supplier appears to fail to respond to their repeated requests for tariff data. There's not much MSE can do about this, but continue with their requests (which I understand they are doing)

Solarplicity (formally LoCo2) have been on MSE CEC for as long as I can remember.

singhini

Hi mbmonty
Can you let me know what your currently being charged per unit with regards to Gas and Electricity, and what is the daily standing charge please (and just reconfirm the supplier please).


Just that I took your figures of 3,750 kwh and 1,400 kwh and put them into a spreadsheet I made and it suggest 3,750 kwh and 1,400 kwh would cost me £1,045 and £173 respectively. Add to this standing charge of £90 per energy, I got a final figure of roughly £1,400 (so to recap; if I was to use 3,750 kwh gas and 1,400 kwh Electricity along with standing charges I would be paying £1,400 with my current supplier, but I get the impression you are currently only paying £582). so I'm asking myself the question perhaps I should be switching to whoever your with as it looks cheaper than my current supplier.


have I miss understood your post?

stewie_griffin

I think there's something very wrong with your spreadsheet. 3750 kWh of gas would cost about £200 based on a unit price of 3p and that includes the standing charge of about £90.

footyguy

singhini wrote: »

Hi mbmonty
Can you let me know what your currently being charged per unit with regards to Gas and Electricity, and what is the daily standing charge please (and just reconfirm the supplier please).


Just that I took your figures of 3,750 kwh and 1,400 kwh and put them into a spreadsheet I made and it suggest 3,750 kwh and 1,400 kwh would cost me £1,045 and £173 respectively. Add to this standing charge of £90 per energy, I got a final figure of roughly £1,400 (so to recap; if I was to use 3,750 kwh gas and 1,400 kwh Electricity along with standing charges I would be paying £1,400 with my current supplier, but I get the impression you are currently only paying £582). so I'm asking myself the question perhaps I should be switching to whoever your with as it looks cheaper than my current supplier.


have I miss understood your post?

I think your calculations are incorrect.

Gas currently costs typically about 2.5p - 4.5p /kWh

So even with highest costs, 3750kWh of gas would only cost £168.75
(As the OP says, the Solarplicity tariff has zero standing charges)

According to energyhelpline, the annual cost for you (in Northampton) would be:
Gas: £124.75 (based on 3.607p /kWh)
Electricity: £196.08 (based on 14.756p /kWh)

(There's also a £21 dual fuel discount)

Note: The OP's usage is exceptionally low, and I suspect may not apply to you.
Zero standing charge tariffs typically favour such low users.

System

I think that the OP needs to be aware that PCWs work (are paid for) with referral fees paid to them by suppliers. For many PCWs, the lack of an agreement to pay referral fees means that the supplier's tariffs will not be listed. AFAIK, MSE Cheap Energy Club's policy has always been one of listing all suppliers.

footyguy

Thought I should add that when I just did a comparison, uSwitch does indeed include Solarplicity in the results

You just need to ensure you modify the default filter to "Include plans that require switching directly through the supplier"

mbmonty

footyguy wrote: »

Thought I should add that when I just did a comparison, uSwitch does indeed include Solarplicity in the results

You just need to ensure you modify the default filter to "Include plans that require switching directly through the supplier"

Just tried again, no Solarplicity and I have no idea where they are hiding the option you suggest.

mbmonty

Hengus wrote: »

I think that the OP needs to be aware that PCWs work (are paid for) with referral fees paid to them by suppliers. For many PCWs, the lack of an agreement to pay referral fees means that the supplier's tariffs will not be listed. AFAIK, MSE Cheap Energy Club's policy has always been one of listing all suppliers.

Durr of course I know how they are funded, I have no problem with the affiliate model but MSE has always held itself to a better standard, I thought that would change when it was bought my MoneySuperMarket and now it seems to be.

I think they need to include all companies and let customers make the decision, it creates a more competitive market.

mbmonty

footyguy wrote: »

I think your calculations are incorrect.

Gas currently costs typically about 2.5p - 4.5p /kWh

So even with highest costs, 3750kWh of gas would only cost £168.75
(As the OP says, the Solarplicity tariff has zero standing charges)

According to energyhelpline, the annual cost for you (in Northampton) would be:
Gas: £124.75 (based on 3.607p /kWh)
Electricity: £196.08 (based on 14.756p /kWh)

(There's also a £21 dual fuel discount)

Note: The OP's usage is exceptionally low, and I suspect may not apply to you.
Zero standing charge tariffs typically favour such low users.

You are right, their figures are wrong.

It is true that I am frugal, I live in a flat and only put heating on when temp gets below 16 degrees at which point I switch thermostat onto manual with temp at 21 degrees. It then goes off when it gets to that and I usually turn it off at that point. I do benefit when others around me put their heating on, sometimes up to 19.5 degrees, I would rather put on a jumper or grab a duvet or blanket than pay. The new price will allow me to put on a bit more often.

I got a new fridge Freezer that says it uses £26 odd a year.

I have device that turns off all power in my living room gagets when one of them is off. I cook with Gas, have a Combi boiler that has quite high heating temp so it heats up quickly

I did say that Even if I increased my usage I would be able to increase Gas from 3,750 kWh to 6,500 kWh and Electricity from 1,400 kWh Elec to 2,050 kWh and pay no more than I am now, which some people think is low already).

I wanted to switch before winter hits, the snow last week pushed me, Solarplicity say they have a new IT system so will take 7 days before they can process my application.

mbmonty

singhini wrote: »

Hi mbmonty
Can you let me know what your currently being charged per unit with regards to Gas and Electricity, and what is the daily standing charge please (and just reconfirm the supplier please).

Just that I took your figures of 3,750 kwh and 1,400 kwh and put them into a spreadsheet I made and it suggest 3,750 kwh and 1,400 kwh would cost me £1,045 and £173 respectively. Add to this standing charge of £90 per energy, I got a final figure of roughly £1,400 (so to recap; if I was to use 3,750 kwh gas and 1,400 kwh Electricity along with standing charges I would be paying £1,400 with my current supplier, but I get the impression you are currently only paying £582). so I'm asking myself the question perhaps I should be switching to whoever your with as it looks cheaper than my current supplier.

have I miss understood your post?

I am paying around £582 but I think your figures are adrift, based on your quote

"3,750 kwh and 1,400 kwh would cost me £1,045 and £173"

1045/3750= 0.279
173/1,400 = 0.124

At first I thought you meant 0.0279p & 0.124p but they would below the lowest, VAT has to be added too.

I can't get this site to display this properly or to display an image but this is structure of my comparison

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