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FTB who should we put on the house deed?

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  • Pixie5740
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    Thanks very much for your help and other help from all, that clears it up really well much appreciated.

    The only other thing we are now wondering is if we both go on the deed but 1 of us dies, does the other automatically inherit the whole house (reminder we are long term BF,GF not married)

    Only if you have wills stating that's what will happen.
  • kingstreet
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    The only other thing we are now wondering is if we both go on the deed but 1 of us dies, does the other automatically inherit the whole house (reminder we are long term BF,GF not married)
    No. That's a feature of joint tenancy.

    You would need to make wills.
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
  • kingstreet
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    Putting my sister in house number 2 - not charging her a penny rent. She pays the bills, I own the house she lives in. I don't reside there. Am I still classed as a landlord?
    No. You can provide a relative with accommodation and not be a landlord.

    There are a few similar issues, such as insurance for a non-resident owner, but these aren't insurmountable.
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
  • Pixie5740 wrote: »
    Only if you have wills stating that's what will happen.
    kingstreet wrote: »
    No. That's a feature of joint tenancy.

    You would need to make wills.

    Can a post office will cover this ? of need a socilitor? would purely be for the house asset. Really want to avoid high cost.
  • aneary
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    Can a post office will cover this ? of need a socilitor? would purely be for the house asset. Really want to avoid high cost.

    Wills are about £250 each from a solicitor (you know a qualified person who knows what they are doing) is that too much when you are about to spend £200K on a house??
  • kingstreet
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    Can a post office will cover this ? of need a socilitor? would purely be for the house asset. Really want to avoid high cost.
    A will determines the distribution of all your assets, not just one.

    I wouldn't cut corners with costs personally. A couple of hundred quid is money well spent when you are talking here about several hundred thousand in cash.
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
  • PokerPlayer111
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    aneary wrote: »
    Wills are about £250 each from a solicitor (you know a qualified person who knows what they are doing) is that too much when you are about to spend £200K on a house??

    £250 each = £500? and we only want it to say if 1 of us dies the other gets the house, no need for full will. I dont know if that is hugely cheap, very easy pay day for solicitor.
  • G_M
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    This part here though, lets assume the long term GF just pays for 50% of property with me on the deed and not her and we dont have a loan agreement draw up. - does that not mean i am liable for capital gains since she just basically "gave" me 100k? (even though she has paid captial gains on her money already)
    There is no Capital Gains Tax on a gift, so no, you won't have to pay CGT.

    She may or may not have to pay Capital Gains Tax when she gives you the gift. That would depend on whether she has made a capital gain. If she had invested, say, £80,000 (which she perhaps inherited) and then sells it for £100,000 (in order to give it to you), then she'll have made a capital gain of £20,000. As she has a CGT allowance each year of £11,000, that means £9,000 would be taxable (at 28% for a lower rate tax payer).

    But if she inherited £100,000 and then gave it to you, there would be no capital gain.
  • G_M
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    Hi. It's the OP's GF now :)

    Is it always a case that you are either a resident at a 2nd property or a landlord?

    I'm thinking of the BF going on the deed to house number 1 with us both putting 50% cash to it.
    Me going on deed for house number 2 and both of us putting 50% to it.
    All cash buys, no mortgage.

    Putting my sister in house number 2 - not charging her a penny rent. She pays the bills, I own the house she lives in. I don't reside there. Am I still classed as a landlord?
    See my earlier reply.
  • G_M
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    The only other thing we are now wondering is if we both go on the deed but 1 of us dies, does the other automatically inherit the whole house (reminder we are long term BF,GF not married)
    There are 2 different ways to own a joint property. The decision you make affects the inheritance if one of you dies. Read:

    https://www.gov.uk/joint-property-ownership
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