ASDA docking pay!

Xbigman

It sounds like the clocking system is automated but isn't properly set up. It should be possible to put in an individuals shift pattern and specify a time either side of that to be ignored. IE I can clock out up to 8 mins after my finish time without the system registering additional hours and flagging it for overtime. But I can't clock out even a second early.

In the case of the OP, does their friend have a set shift pattern? Any variable pattern can cause extra problems.




Darren

GwylimT

When I had a part time job at morrisons you lost 15 minutes pay for clocking out more than two minutes late. As a team we timed how quickly you could get to the machine to clock out and our record while walking was six minutes.

However clocking out early also led to losing 15 minutes pay, so we all started clocking out fifteen minutes early. The late fine was removed pretty sharpish!

la-moi

Like it or lump it - it's lawful. So either don't clock out late, or take a 45 minute break

Wow. Another "old" poster with an unhelpful comment.
The employer needs to be better at communicating how long his breaks need to be to avoid such an issue, which they haven't done. Not because he didn't read section 4 paragraph 12 on page 15. That's pretty much all I'm going to say further on the matter. People don't work for minimum wage to be given unclear stipulations and guidelines which can't be followed easily.

sangie595

la-moi wrote: »

Wow. Another "old" poster with an unhelpful comment.
The employer needs to be better at communicating how long his breaks need to be to avoid such an issue, which they haven't done. Not because he didn't read section 4 paragraph 12 on page 15. That's pretty much all I'm going to say further on the matter. People don't work for minimum wage to be given unclear stipulations and guidelines which can't be followed easily.

It was clearly stated in the contract. If he can't be bothered reading it then that is his fault. How do you make out that it's everyone else's fault that he didn't read his contract? Nothing at all unclear about writing it on paper in black and white. Do you really expect employers to sit everyone down and explain their contract to them? The minimum wage and literacy or intelligence are not connected. You are making out that he's a fool who can't understand things because he's low paid. People on minimum wages are able to read and understand contracts perfectly well.

Wal-Mart are doing nothing the law doesn't do. There are strict cut off points on breaks. Work one second over six hours and you must have at least a 20 minute unpaid break. That's the statutory minimum. There are always boundary lines. For Wal-Mart it's 8 hours for a longer break. I fail to see why you don't get it. The rule is there,, and it's an employees responsibility to know it. They haven't written it on vellum and locked it in a safe in a sealed room - they very unreasonably wrote it down and gave everyone a copy!

TELLIT01

It does seem like a ridiculous system. Anywhere I've worked you simply wouldn't get paid any extra if you voluntarily stayed beyond your normal working hours without management authorisation.
Expecting everybody to clock out in a 60 second period sounds utterly impractical.

Lizabeth21

la-moi wrote: »

I honestly mean clocking out one minute after his shift finished which is why I'm so flabbergasted...he's been told that 8 hr shift- entitled to half an hour break (unpaid)
Over 8 hours is 45 minute break (unpaid)
If you clock out a minute later it means you've worked over 8hrs so they deduct pay for a supposed 45minute break.

You do seem to understand. If this is the contract seems pretty clear. Don’t take longer or shorter break. He should try timing his breaks clocking on and off at the right time before his break and after his break then at the end of shift and ...... no penalty. Or clock out on time. Do whatever is needed to not have pay taken away. Responsibility comes to mind.

xapprenticex

This person seems to think that unpaid breaks are not the norm smh