Council selling flats

Cheeky_Monkey

Somniac wrote: »

Try this one from Cheeky Monkey above

"Who exactly do you think they should have consulted before going about their lawful business? You, by any chance?"

Unlucky - deannatrois asked you to point out the aggressive posts at post no. 11 and my post that you quoted above was no. 13 - so duh!

Crashy_Time

Are they selling the flats for less than the RTB crowd paid or something?

paddycharlie

If you were a private homeowner of a leasehold flat in a block of flats where the block Freeholder also owned some of the leasehold flats then he/she could sell the flats and retain he freehold which wouldn't change his duties to manage the block.


Do you think as a private leashold owner of the flat you would have a right to be consulted on the freeholder selling their flats?


Councils should be accountable and transparent but where do you draw the line for what everyone needs to be consulted? Should you be consulted whenever the hire someone, when they sale any and all land no matter how small, when they buy or sell old office equipment?


Imagine if everyone got consulted every time the council in their area sold an asset how much additional cost it would be and how annoyed everyone would be by the constant contact. The council are slow enough at getting stuff done without an additional delay for consultations

lincroft1710

Crashy_Time wrote: »

Yes, I agree to a point, but he doesn`t fund owner/occs with his monthly council tax, that makes it slightly different, he is in a way a shareholder of the council?

What's council tax got to do with it? I don't agree that OP is a shareholder of the council. My original post was simply to point out that by being in a block where the majority of other occupiers are not council tenants will not lead to any change in management of that block and thus there is no need for consultation between the OP and the council.

Somniac

paddycharlie wrote: »

The council should be accountable for providing housing to those who need it and shouldn't be selling off housing stock if it is not being replaced by additional stock.


But how can them selling empty properties on the open market lead to them knocking down the block. Surely they'd need to own all of the properties for that to happen and some of them are already privately owned so how would they knock the block down?

A few years ago, they tried to buy out the leaseholders with that in mind but the leaseholders didnt want to know. I know the estates in Hackney and Lambeth were a mix of tenant and l/holder and it has not stopped them redeveloping. That's why it worries us.

Somniac

Cheeky_Monkey wrote: »

Unlucky - deannatrois asked you to point out the aggressive posts at post no. 11 and my post that you quoted above was no. 13 - so duh!

Are you actually 12 or just acting like it?

Somniac

paddycharlie wrote: »

If you were a private homeowner of a leasehold flat in a block of flats where the block Freeholder also owned some of the leasehold flats then he/she could sell the flats and retain he freehold which wouldn't change his duties to manage the block.


Do you think as a private leashold owner of the flat you would have a right to be consulted on the freeholder selling their flats?


Councils should be accountable and transparent but where do you draw the line for what everyone needs to be consulted? Should you be consulted whenever the hire someone, when they sale any and all land no matter how small, when they buy or sell old office equipment?


Imagine if everyone got consulted every time the council in their area sold an asset how much additional cost it would be and how annoyed everyone would be by the constant contact. The council are slow enough at getting stuff done without an additional delay for consultations

What exactly do you think they are getting done? It seems to me they are shirking action on the building by offloading it onto l/holders. The windows for example were due for replacement 2013 but have been delayed year by year. The l/holders got so sick of waiting they paid for their own windows. The council are probably hoping this will avoid their having to pay for it if they gradually sell it all off. In the meantime the tenants are putting up with leaks and drafts. One window fell out from a high floor onto the pavement below recently.
I suppose what I am saying is I do not trust their motivation. So many people are being put out of their homes on what turn out to be empty promises.

Norman_Castle

Crashy_Time wrote: »

Yes, I agree to a point, but he doesn`t fund owner/occs with his monthly council tax,

Council tax doesn't fund owner occupiers or council housing so whats council tax got to do with it?

Norman_Castle

Somniac wrote: »

I suppose what I am saying is I do not trust their motivation. So many people are being put out of their homes on what turn out to be empty promises.

Its likely the 90 mile distance makes maintenance difficult or more expensive so a gradual reduction in the number of properties owned will reduce the maintenance.

Its understandable you are concerned about the future of your home. Explain your concerns to the council and ask about their future plans for the block.

paddycharlie

Somniac wrote: »

What exactly do you think they are getting done? It seems to me they are shirking action on the building by offloading it onto l/holders. The windows for example were due for replacement 2013 but have been delayed year by year. The l/holders got so sick of waiting they paid for their own windows. The council are probably hoping this will avoid their having to pay for it if they gradually sell it all off. In the meantime the tenants are putting up with leaks and drafts. One window fell out from a high floor onto the pavement below recently.
I suppose what I am saying is I do not trust their motivation. So many people are being put out of their homes on what turn out to be empty promises.

Sounds like they are being bad freeholders which you can come across in both private and council freeholds so its nothing new and as nothing to do with a requirement to consult people when selling a property. You should be looking to hold them to task for not looking after the building not whining about being consulted?


If they don't have time or money to sort out the basics of their freeholder duties do you think having to consult with everyone over every asset sold will speed them up for you? And even if they did consult on selling a property they are not obliged to not sell it.