Will they go to court or not?

pappa_golf

in the BPA code of conduct relevent at the time of your incident

Your approach to parking management must allow a
driver who enters your car park but decides not to park,
to leave the car park within a reasonable period without
having their vehicle issued with a parking charge notice.
13.2 You should allow the driver a reasonable ‘grace period’
in which to decide if they are going to stay or go. If the
driver is on your land without permission you should still
allow them a grace period to read your signs and leave
before you take enforcement action.
13.3 You should be prepared to tell us the specific grace period
at a site if our compliance team or our agents ask what it is.
13.4 You should allow the driver a reasonable period to leave the
private car park after the parking contract has ended, before
you take enforcement action. If the location is one where
parking is normally permitted, the Grace Period at the end
of the parking period should be a minimum of 10 minutes.

alas the general public cannot / will not be told this

KeithP

rizla01 wrote: »

There is no mention of how long the grace period lasts and also no mention of grace periods for leaving car park.

Read the BPA's CoP (13 Grace periods) to find that out.

Quentin

rizla01 wrote: »

Water under the proverbial now tho, isn't it?
The advice given WILL be taken into account but obviously we cannot turn back time, so as I said, those points you raised are mute

Why is it water under the bridge??

Your daughter can still make those points in a letter to pe long before she needs submit her defence!

Those points you say are moot are in fact very relevant

pappa_golf

KeithP wrote: »

Read the BPA's CoP (13 Grace periods) to find that out.

13.3 You should be prepared to tell us the specific grace period
at a site if our compliance team or our agents ask what it is


BUT , that info is not available to the general public (I have asked them previously)

Quentin

rizla01 wrote: »

This is a rough of the defence that she put forward originally.
Obviously we need to remove the unwanted part..

Remove that photo of the "defence"!! The ppcs monitor this forum and can use your posts against you

rizla01

Quentin wrote: »

Remove that photo of the "defence"!! The ppcs monitor this forum and can use your posts against you

Thanks - Done that.
Quentin, Just saying earlier about the REASON why I didn't act before and questioning that makes a mute point - most certainly not the advice I was given.

I.e. lets look forward and see what to do NOW as this needs to be dealt with over the coming 2-3 day now.

Sorry if I appeared abrupt.:beer::A

Quentin

You are missing the point - your daughter can send that letter cm recommended to PE today!


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Just seen this:

rizla01 wrote: »

Also in the Reply to Defence Parking eye state.
"Parking Eye also operate a grace period on all sites,....

So it looks like the court sent that original defence to PE!!

KeithP

Cannot read whatever it is you have posted an image of.
Too small. Too blurred.

A significant fee is payable to submit a revised defence.

rizla01

KeithP wrote: »

Cannot read whatever it is you have posted an image of.
Too small. Too blurred.

A significant fee is payable to submit a revised defence.

Ok. How much is significant?

Also are defendants only permitted to rely on what is submitted as there only defence or can further defence criteria be raised at the hearing.

What about points they may be raised as a result of pertinent questions asked?
Or should they all be submitted with the original defence?

The_Deep

Look at the small print at the bottom of that sign. How on earth can they expect the everyman to read and digest all of that in less than 10 minutes, it must be about 400 words, unbroken by paragraphs.


Surely this block of text does not conform to BPA or DfT requiremets for road signs.