Lily Allen may be homeless for Christmas

PasturesNew

Diplomatic immunity was intended to prevent Govt-employed foreigners from being arrested and imprisoned, beaten and tortured, in the case of fake arrests to further a Govt's personal aim.

It was never intended to be used/abused by them to break laws willy nilly.

I'd tighten it all up. It's not especially "relevant" in our country where, in the main, diplomats aren't rounded up at 3am en-masse, beaten and held in a damp hellhole for 10 years awaiting a fake trial on a fictional charge.

bugslet

studentguy wrote: »

Of course, if you dare care about refugees and try to raise awareness for them that means you must personally let refugees live in your house. What a ridiculous argument.

I'm not the biggest fan of Lily Allen as a person, and this tweet shows a complete lack of self awareness, but that was an unfair criticism from you.

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She did say that she would take in a child refugee. AFAIK, she never has done when it is possible to, preferring to rent her place out.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-europe-37633937/lily-allen-i-would-take-in-a-refugee

It comes over hypocritical and the use of the word homeless, again, how does that square with people who are genuinely homeless and have not hope of getting anywhere but a hostel.

She does set herself up for this sometimes.

studentguy

To be fair then in this case she's set herself up for this. I didn't realise she explicitly said she would take in refugees into her home.

It's just that I usually see people react to people standing up and raising awareness of refugees say "why don't you take them in to your house though" - as if the fact that someone doesn't want strangers living with them means they don't want to help refugees.

phoebe1989seb

Can't stand her personally, but I thought she had another house somewhere - the Cotswolds? - or did she sell that? I know where I'd rather spend Christmas......and it wouldn't be London

Just recalled that a neighbour said that Lily Allen's half-sister viewed their house earlier this year. If she'd purchased it, we could have had Lily staying across the lane for Christmas.....that would have been fun. Not!

teneighty

phoebe1989seb wrote: »

Can't stand her personally, but I thought she had another house somewhere - the Cotswolds? - or did she sell that? I know where I'd rather spend Christmas......and it wouldn't be London

Just recalled that a neighbour said that Lily Allen's half-sister viewed their house earlier this year. If she'd purchased it, we could have had Lily staying across the lane for Christmas.....that would have been fun. Not!

This one? http://www.cotswolds.info/famouspeople/lily-allen.shtml poor little Saint Lily.

I think she sold it recently so no doubt has a few spare £million in the bank.

bugslet

teneighty wrote: »

This one? http://www.cotswolds.info/famouspeople/lily-allen.shtml poor little Saint Lily.

I think she sold it recently so no doubt has a few spare £million in the bank.

4.2 million, but she owed the tax man a bit;). I suspect whatever she has left over will get her a nice rental, better than anything most of us could aspire to.

Comms69

studentguy wrote: »

Of course, if you dare care about refugees and try to raise awareness for them that means you must personally let refugees live in your house. What a ridiculous argument.

I'm not the biggest fan of Lily Allen as a person, and this tweet shows a complete lack of self awareness, but that was an unfair criticism from you.

Actually yes. If you care that much and another person doesn't - and you take up the moral high ground, you need to back it up by your actions.


Talk is cheap...

Comms69

PasturesNew wrote: »

Diplomatic immunity was intended to prevent Govt-employed foreigners from being arrested and imprisoned, beaten and tortured, in the case of fake arrests to further a Govt's personal aim.

It was never intended to be used/abused by them to break laws willy nilly.

I'd tighten it all up. It's not especially "relevant" in our country where, in the main, diplomats aren't rounded up at 3am en-masse, beaten and held in a damp hellhole for 10 years awaiting a fake trial on a fictional charge.

Actually that's strictly not quite true. The point was that diplomats would be immune from prosecution, period.


The whole point is that you can get someone on the willy nilly laws a lot more easily than the 'big' laws.

Comms69

studentguy wrote: »

To be fair then in this case she's set herself up for this. I didn't realise she explicitly said she would take in refugees into her home.

It's just that I usually see people react to people standing up and raising awareness of refugees say "why don't you take them in to your house though" - as if the fact that someone doesn't want strangers living with them means they don't want to help refugees.

It depends on what your stance is. Do you, as is common, call people racist when they don't agree with you?

Comms69

aneary wrote: »

I think it's civil rather than criminal.

Congestion charge is the same as council parking tickets. technically it's criminal as it's a statutory charge, not a private one like you might receive for parking at Sainsbury's.