issue with new build

GDB2222

Zales200483 wrote: »

Quick question, although it is not yet official, the builder proposal is to install outside gully and in that way reconnect the drains. I am a bit dubious about it as firstly it will spoil the look of the property, secondly they will have to go through wall to get the pipe out and i will still be left with original pipe going all way down through the floor . ~i assume that they will close it somehow but still i dont know how i feel about it. To add insult to injury i know absolutely nothing about drains etc. Any thoughts???

What does your surveyor advise?

Doozergirl

Most people I know have their sink waste pipe popping out from the wall. I think I’ve been one of those people all my life.

I don’t think anyone notices. How many people’s houses have you looked at and thought that their sink wastes ruin the look of their house?

In preference to smashing through the foundations? I’d take that every day.

Have you and the site manager checked that every water outlet runs into the manhole when opened? Just in case.

Zales200483

I have surveyor attending on Monday when i am on my days off although i am a bit vary of whether it is his area of expertise really. No work will commence until i satisfied with proposed plan and have second opinion.
I just wanted to know general opinion whether it is reasonable? downgrade? attempt from builder to fob me off? I would think that this alteration would change the specification of the building i have originally bought, will that affect the value of it?

Zales200483

Doozergirl

They have done it today,
i understand your point but the layout of my house is that from the patio door i have paved footpath towards shed at steep angle alongside the house. It would mean that the pipe would be taken through the wall quite high and the gully would encroach on footpath.

Doozergirl

What they are proposing doesn’t affect value.

Furts clearly has some strong opinions, but given the circumstances I would vastly prefer the option that most people have to smashing through damp proof courses and foundations.

Drainage is really very simple. Kepp it flowing in the right direction and make sure it’s easy to rod blockages. Make any significant junctions with inspection chambers.

Ask your friends how many have their kitchen waste popping out of the wall under the sink.

Doozergirl

Zales200483 wrote: »

Doozergirl

They have done it today,
i understand your point but the layout of my house is that from the patio door i have paved footpath towards shed at steep angle alongside the house. It would mean that the pipe would be taken through the wall quite high and the gully would encroach on footpath.

If there is enough fall for it to go underneath the floor in your house and hit the inspection chamber, it is equally possible to hit the inspection chamber by going into the paving on the other side of the wall within 150mm of your house.

Zales200483

I had gully in my previous(rented) house and tbh didnt like it. As funny as it sounds it just looks messy. But i got your point about going through foundation etc. Other issue is how they gonna deal with the remains of the original pipe going through the floor.

GDB2222

Zales200483 wrote: »

I had gully in my previous(rented) house and tbh didnt like it. As funny as it sounds it just looks messy. But i got your point about going through foundation etc. Other issue is how they gonna deal with the remains of the original pipe going through the floor.

I'd want to know where the original non-drain pipe is going to and what's going on in your sub-floor. So, I'd want a camera poked down the non-drain and in through the air bricks.

However, if the non-drain is not connected to anything, then it can be cut off above floor level and the hole filled.

Zales200483

At the moment I am awaiting at written results of investigation and proposal how to rectify it. In a meantime i a have asked following question:
Could you advise what exactly was the problem identified and why it has occurred?

Who exactly was investigating today and what is they expertise and also who will sign it off as the person in charge/responsible.?

Was the endoscopic camera consider to make sure that there is no further issues and if not why?

Who will actually do the work and supervise it and be person responsible for quality and compliance?

Was environmental survey considered to make sure that there is no environmental and health issues with months of waste being dumped in the ground?

Bottom line is that still noone of the managers had any decency to personally phone me and speak to me.

Furts

You do not know where the new gulley has been connected into. You do not know if this work has been tested, or whether it is bodged and leaking. You do not know if it is connected to a foul drain - it may have been bodged into the surface water system.

But it sounds like the work is incomplete - are they going to drill through your kitchen wall for the sink waste to go down the face of your brickwork?

Remember this is your drainage on your land. You have not a clue what is happening. So all round a shocking state of affairs.

Keepmoat are treating you, your rights, your courtesy and your respect with utter contempt. A message is being sent out loud and clear here. Put bluntly Keepmoat are taking the p-ss out of you.