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Land registary and 4 month solicitor delay.
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I think much of this has been covered by others but for clarity re our approach here goes
It reads as if their property is registered but a small strip is not. As such the buyer's want that resolved before they will complete. That means an application fir first registration.
It also reads as if they don't have deeds to show that the land is owned so they are claiming it based on having been their 47 years. If so then a survey is required as the claim is based on their statement of truth/stat dec or claim that the ladn should have been included when first registered. As such we have to 'take a look' to confirm the details.
FRs are currently taking on average 61 working days. If there is a linked transaction such as an onward sale/purchase then the application can be 'expedited'. The solicitor has to request that and supply details if the sale/purchase
Expedition means it can be considered within 10 working days usually. And the survey requested, which is also then done within 10 working days.
If all is then in order it can be registered.
As far as other courses of action are concerned it seems you have covered these, namely buy it and register the strip afterwards or take out indemnity insurance against someone else claiming the land. The buyer appears to have said no to both. Their choice of course.
On the face of it fairly routine as suggested by one poster but the reality is that there are several factors to consider and not all may relate to the registration process.
It can be very stressful and we do recognise that by providing the expedition service.
Your parents of course know everything there is to know re the land over 47 years. But the solicitors, the buyer's and ourselves don't so there is a process to follow and law law to be recognised before registration can be completed.
Finally, it seems that there is some uncertainty over what's been happening re the application. Happy to take a look and advise if you want to post the allocated title number here or email us“Official Company Representative
I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"0 -
Sorry for the late response. After getting notifications all last night of replies i got no notifications today! But thank you so much for your responses.
Apparently this strip of land got left off when the lease hold was bought by my parents. The house backs into woodland so maybe this was a bit ambiguous on the plans? Apparently though its in the hands of Ordinance Survey now!
Regardess i will pass on all this good advice to my parents to chase.
Thanks for the details Land Registry. Much appreciated.0 -
Thanks for your response, G_M im sure you get the jist of my post regardless of punctation, paragraphs or relevance. Again this is a emotional post so sorry if i have offended your information giving rules in any way! I was asking for support not a lesson but i bow in your greatness.
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You are, indeed, a new poster, so advice to you might help with your future posts requesting advice.
Hence I politely suggested use of paragraphs etc (my very first word was 'please').
By posting, you were asking complete strangers to spend their unpaid time giving you advice. It is therefore only fair to make it as easy for them as possible to understand your problem. It is also helpful to you, as more people are likely to respond, and to do so with relevant advice, if they can quickly, easily, and accurately, understand your problem.
Having briefly and politely passed on the benefit of my exerience in posting, to assist you next time, I then provided some suggestions, which were later pretty much confirmed by the Land Registry Rep (eg the possibility of the solicitor 'expediting' the application.
I write this now not just for you, but for the benefit of other new posters who might come across this thread before posting themselves.
And while on the subject, it's always appreciated by respondants when a poster hits the 'thanks' button!0 -
Hi Land registry
The ref is SYK 655645
Sadly the address came back failed when we tried to use it?
If you could private message me the link then we could try again.
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Good afternoon G-M
As much as I appreciate your advice was correct I feel the manner of delivery could have had a less rude and critical tone. After all I didn’t see your specific instructions on the posting rules, however I may have missed them.
I did find the Etiquette of posting guideline given on this site and have highlighted it as a polite and friendly reminder:- Please be nice to all MoneySavers:
- Please be sensitive:
- We're proud that many people whose financial problems exacerbate mental health issues seek help in the forum, but this means you may be berating someone who's clinically depressed. Please think twice before posting judgmental comments.
- Don't feed the trolls:
We are lucky, that at this point, as stressed, frustrated and potentially homeless my family and I are regarding this situation, it hasn’t quite took us over the edge, however I would hate to think of a person posting, desperate for help and in an emotional condition, to have your post as a first response. Further correcting them and being critical of their post, adding to the demoralising situation they are already in. Please consider this in your future responses, asking the question ,What may be happening beyond the words for that person.
I’m sure a lot of people who post on these sites asking for advice are indeed at an emotional standpoint that’s driven them to air their personal business for others to judge. You and others that kindly reply are hopefully in a better place as you are possibly not currently experiencing the worries of the initial poster, and have experience of/deal with that issue and it’s not as worrying for you.
I will consider the format and relevance of my future posts, however I am human, and emotionally invested in this situation, and not on the more fortunate side of being able to give detached advice.
Please can I ask that you also take a moment to reflect on the tone of your posts when replying to people. I’m sure we can both learn from this experience as after all, no one is perfect. I’m sure no one expects kid gloves however a bit of compassion goes a long way.
After all just using please in a post does not make a critical and negative tone more polite.
I feel that this is the end of this discussion now and both our feelings have been aired.
Additionally Thanks for pointing out the Thanks button, I’ve already seen it, and used it a few times already.
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Good afternoon G-M
As much as I appreciate your advice was correct I feel the manner of delivery could have had a less rude and critical tone. After all I didn’t see your specific instructions on the posting rules, however I may have missed them.
I did find the Etiquette of posting guideline given on this site and have highlighted it as a polite and friendly reminder:- Please be nice to all MoneySavers:
- Please be sensitive:
- We're proud that many people whose financial problems exacerbate mental health issues seek help in the forum, but this means you may be berating someone who's clinically depressed. Please think twice before posting judgmental comments.
- Don't feed the trolls:
We are lucky, that at this point, as stressed, frustrated and potentially homeless my family and I are regarding this situation, it hasn’t quite took us over the edge, however I would hate to think of a person posting, desperate for help and in an emotional condition, to have your post as a first response. Further correcting them and being critical of their post, adding to the demoralising situation they are already in. Please consider this in your future responses, asking the question ,What may be happening beyond the words for that person.
I’m sure a lot of people who post on these sites asking for advice are indeed at an emotional standpoint that’s driven them to air their personal business for others to judge. You and others that kindly reply are hopefully in a better place as you are possibly not currently experiencing the worries of the initial poster, and have experience of/deal with that issue and it’s not as worrying for you.
I will consider the format and relevance of my future posts, however I am human, and emotionally invested in this situation, and not on the more fortunate side of being able to give detached advice.
Please can I ask that you also take a moment to reflect on the tone of your posts when replying to people. I’m sure we can both learn from this experience as after all, no one is perfect. I’m sure no one expects kid gloves however a bit of compassion goes a long way.
After all just using please in a post does not make a critical and negative tone more polite.
I feel that this is the end of this discussion now and both our feelings have been aired.
Additionally Thanks for pointing out the Thanks button, I’ve already seen it, and used it a few times already.
AndyBean G_M is a hugely respected poster on this forum, and the author of many helpful guides, especially on issues relating to renting. You will see he has almost 50,000 thanks from those grateful for his sage advice, freely given and taking considerable time. He was even kind enough to continue to give you advice despite your suggestion he was rude.
New poster or not you need to be more grateful and less entitled. You might then find that G_M invites you round for his infamous tea and cake0 -
Tea and cake I'm there! I'm sure we could have a good old conversation. I make a mean Banana Bread!!
Sadly the written word doesn't always come across as well as spoken.
I never disagreed with the advice, just the tone and context it was given in. As person surely I have the right to respond. After all it took me quite a lot to voice my worries and it wasn't the response I needed at that time. I certainly don't feel entitled, just a person needing some kind of answer or ideas at a tricky time.
There is always the worry that a little bit of compassion for others can be lost when information is constantly being given and repeated. It was a polite reminder to think about what is going on behind the scenes, does this person really need advice or do they need a lesson on posting questions?
I'm just trying to help make sure that doesn't happen again through passing on my thoughts on how I felt receiving such a post. After all I did say the delivery was rude not the man!
As I said I feel the nature of this discussion is over and actually diverting from my original question.
Any financial ideas out of this situation would also be appreciated.
Enjoy the cake!0
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