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Council tax discounts for ‘severe mental impairment’

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  • CIS
    CIS Posts: 12,260 Forumite
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    Fishikiss wrote: »
    Hi. She gets higher rate PIP for mobility and care.

    Presumably then your council tax demand currently shows no discounts at the moment and you're the only 3 adults in the property ?



    Certainly, on the face of it, it sounds like it should be awarded - at this stage, if I was formally drafting a client's dispute, I'd be spelling out the legislation to them and asking exactly why they don't believe you qualify. Their response should then clarify the situation (usually I find a letter solves it at that point though, if the right issues are raised then they often see sense !).
    I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a specialist Council Tax paralegal assisting landlords and Council Tax payers with council tax disputes and valuation tribunals. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.
  • Fishikiss
    Fishikiss Posts: 19 Forumite
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    CIS wrote: »
    Presumably then your council tax demand currently shows no discounts at the moment and you're the only 3 adults in the property ?



    Certainly, on the face of it, it sounds like it should be awarded - at this stage, if I was formally drafting a client's dispute, I'd be spelling out the legislation to them and asking exactly why they don't believe you qualify. Their response should then clarify the situation (usually I find a letter solves it at that point though, if the right issues are raised then they often see sense !).

    No discounts on anything. Just full council tax for 3 adults. Because when i call they just tell me to email i am at a loss on what i should do. I'm not sure why everything has to be so difficult for those with genuine needs.
  • CIS
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    Challenge them specifically on why they have not awarded it and outlining the specific legislation to support the claim is the best way - it is typically the way forward that I use and I find it works well. Especially if combined with the statutory warning that you'll be considering a s16 tribunal appeal.
    I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a specialist Council Tax paralegal assisting landlords and Council Tax payers with council tax disputes and valuation tribunals. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.
  • Fishikiss
    Fishikiss Posts: 19 Forumite
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    Thanks for all your advice CIS where do i find the information on the legislation?
  • CIS
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    Straightforward council tax queries are relatively easy but if/when you start getting to technical arguments you have to treat it like any other area of law.



    Unless you have access to a law database then the legislation is generally not consolidated so you'd need to go through each piece from 1992 and update it as needed to get to the current legislation. (Best thing I've got for work purposes is a law database access - makes it far easier but they're not cheap and not readily available to those not working in the job).



    To fully put together an argument with legislation you'll need to put together parts from at least two different lots of legislation.
    I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a specialist Council Tax paralegal assisting landlords and Council Tax payers with council tax disputes and valuation tribunals. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.
  • Fishikiss
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    Thank you CIS i have asked them to look at it again and to disregard myself and my husband for Council Tax
  • tboo
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    You are entitled to 50% off for a SMI and 2 carers


    The system they use may be not correctly taking the discounts off so you will have to ask them if they are having trouble added the discounts on - as you shouldn't have any problems getting the discount

    Because they are 3 adults in the property then any discounts don't work as such if there are different classes to add onto the system as it tries to calculate more than you are entitled to

    We have to fudge it by adding the smi on, then 1 carer, then 1 carer under the person status - this gives 50% off but lists all on the system for audit
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  • CIS
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    We have to fudge it by adding the smi on, then 1 carer, then 1 carer under the person status - this gives 50% off but lists all on the system for audit
    Northgate ?
    I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a specialist Council Tax paralegal assisting landlords and Council Tax payers with council tax disputes and valuation tribunals. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.
  • CIS
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    Fishikiss wrote: »
    Thank you CIS i have asked them to look at it again and to disregard myself and my husband for Council Tax


    I can't see any initial reason why you wouldn't be entitled but see what they come back with.
    I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a specialist Council Tax paralegal assisting landlords and Council Tax payers with council tax disputes and valuation tribunals. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.
  • tboo
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    CIS wrote: »
    Northgate ?




    yeah - nightmare
    “You’re only here for a short visit.
    Don’t hurry, don't worry and be sure to smell the flowers along the way.”
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