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  • ACG
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    If this stops working, surely the next step is for them to be in your home while you are sleeping or worse, waking you up with a bit of force?

    Personally, I would rather them take the car this way.
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  • Jackmydad
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    Big hasp and staple welded to each door, with a big padlock.
    While you're on. 2" weldmesh over all the glass.
    Bit of red oxide. Jobs a good 'un! :D
  • AnotherJoe
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    verityboo wrote: »
    Looks like the one thief went to the front door (while the other was stood by the car) using the device to grab the signal from the key. Would be interesting to know how close the key was to the front door? The signals from the key aren't that strong

    They can be a considerable distance away, more than the length of a house. The transmitter / receiver is very powerful and also sensitive enough to pick up the faint signal from the fob.
  • angrycrow
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    This problem has been known about for years. I was aware of it when I owned a Renault with keyless entry and I sold that car on four years ago. Clearly the industry and public have known about the issue for at least 5 years but the public keep paying extra for the keyless entry.
  • Gloomendoom
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    ACG wrote: »
    If this stops working, surely the next step is for them to be in your home while you are sleeping or worse, waking you up with a bit of force?

    It wasn't a particularly common problem before keyless entry became popular.
  • iltisman
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    I wonder if the crooks will adapt this technology to use contactless credit cards remotely.
  • Twice last week I saw cars driving down the road with the alarms sounding.
  • Mercdriver
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    iltisman wrote: »
    I wonder if the crooks will adapt this technology to use contactless credit cards remotely.

    already happening. Better news is that there is a £30 limit. ApplePay, however is unlimited
  • takman
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    AnotherJoe wrote: »
    They can be a considerable distance away, more than the length of a house. The transmitter / receiver is very powerful and also sensitive enough to pick up the faint signal from the fob.

    If that is the case then why would there need to be a separate receiver and transmitter and why would one person need to be standing next to the house. If they could amplify a signal from far away then they would only need one device to hold near the car, so i don't think it works as far as you think.
    iltisman wrote: »
    I wonder if the crooks will adapt this technology to use contactless credit cards remotely.

    This is just an urban myth that people keep spouting when talking about the negatives of contactless cards. If a thief tried to take unauthorised payments like this it would soon lead to them being caught when multiple people report the transactions as unauthorised. You cannot take card payments anonymously.
  • DoaM
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    takman wrote: »
    If that is the case then why would there need to be a separate receiver and transmitter and why would one person need to be standing next to the house. If they could amplify a signal from far away then they would only need one device to hold near the car, so i don't think it works as far as you think.

    I agree. They need to be as close as possible because:

    1. As I recall, signal strength degrades by the square of distance (double the distance, 4 times less signal strength)
    2. Building materials also impede the signal path

    Therefore they stand at the window and place the search device on/very close to the window and then repeat the signal to a device near the car.
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