Overlapping employment dates

RobertDeNiro

Hi there.

I'm due to leave job A on the 6th of Dec. Due to start job B on the 27th of Nov.

That's an overlap of 9 days. I'm not required to attend work with job A.

Firstly, will either employer know that I have technically had two jobs for those 9 days? I ask this because I'd prefer that they didn't as it would be classed as a conflict of interests from job A. However, I simply cannot let the opportunity from job B pass me by.

The second issue is about tax, upon starting employment with job B, would it be worth stating option 'B' on the new starter form that this is my only job and then sort this issue of being paid twice in one month(albeit one income will only be for 6 days) out with HMRC myself when I've left job A, stating that I had an overlap in employment and now only have one source of income and what do I owe, etc.

Any help and advice would be appreciated.

cr1mson

Getting a bit of deja vu with this post or is it just me?

TELLIT01

There shouldn't be anything to sort out with HMRC. They don't care how many jobs you have as long as they are advised of all income.
You might have more trouble with your current or your future employers. If there is a conflict of interest with you moving to company B that's likely still to be the case after job A officially finishes. If there is anything in your contract with job A to say you can't work for companies like job B, your current employer could complain to them and you could then be out the door for lying to B in the first place.

RobertDeNiro

TELLIT01 wrote: »

There shouldn't be anything to sort out with HMRC. They don't care how many jobs you have as long as they are advised of all income.
You might have more trouble with your current or your future employers. If there is a conflict of interest with you moving to company B that's likely still to be the case after job A officially finishes. If there is anything in your contract with job A to say you can't work for companies like job B, your current employer could complain to them and you could then be out the door for lying to B in the first place.

Fair enough - how would they find out though being that it's such a short period of time? I'll see if my last day can be brought forward but it's doubtful.

With the HMRC issue, I just presumed that by checking box 'B' on the new starter form with my new employer that I would be put on a the basic tax rate for both jobs meaning neither would be aware. A few days later when I cease employment with job A I'll contact them and state that I technically had two employments for that 9 day duration and was receiving pay for both of them.

I don't know, perhaps it doesn't work like that, can't say I'm very experienced or knowledgeable in the matter - please do educate me if that's the case.

sangie595

It's usually called "gossip". If there's something you don't want anybody to know, somebody will find out or notice and gossip it.

[Deleted User]

RobertDeNiro wrote: »

I'll see if my last day can be brought forward but it's doubtful.

Why don't you let A make the call? Honestly if they hear these plans they might seriously consider it. Please get their permission as I never thought I'd see jaws drop until similar nearly happened to me.

Mind you the new employer thought I was joking starting jobs back 2 back, until they saw my P45... Could have been worse if old employer hadn't realised what I intended to do with my days of with them.

Turns out the oddest can't wait starting date could actually have waited 5 days when the new pay period actually started and to now think situations of old employer getting cross and cloud with new employer over when I started, moreso in terms of pension enrolment date and possible for holiday entitlement not starting when I thought so were avoidable. What a silly situation.

Pricivius

It sounds as though you are going to be on garden leave with company A? Or maybe you already are?


Bear in mind that if this is the case, they can recall you into the office at any time as they are still paying you and you are therefore "on their time". I have worked for companies before where they got wind that an employee on garden leave had started a job elsewhere and they called them into the office for work at 9am the next day. The employee didn't turn up as the were at their new job. They were deemed to be AWOL and their pay was docked. It could have got messier as they could have been disciplined and dismissed, but the companies chose not to go down that route. But the employees lost their pay for the remainder of their garden leave and if I remember rightly, their new companies were informed of the position, and were also informed of the restrictive covenants in their contracts.


Which is another point - if company B are a competitor, company A are likely to be more upset about what you are doing, and more likely to take a close look at any covenants in your contract. Have you checked this to ensure you are compliant?

getmore4less

Tax and pay.

It is quite common for people to get overlap when changing jobs and for the last pay from the old job to be in the same pay period as the first from the new job.

ScorpiondeRooftrouser

Company A are paying you up until the 6th of December. They have call on your time up until then.

If they call you into the office from the 27th to the 6th what are you going to do?

You need to contact company A and get them to release you and stop paying you on the 27th. If they genuinely do not want you in the office, there is no reason for them not to do this. It is extremely dishonest not to...and worse than extremely dishonest, easily found out. Why do you feel that it is doubtful they would agree, and why do you not want to do this?

Could you not have delayed your start with company B?