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Landlord demanding £6000 from leaseholders

Hi all,

My elderly father lives in a leasehold flat in a property around 50 years old. He pays around £1200 a year in service charges. This sometimes increases, depending on what work needs doing to the upkeep of the building.

He recently got letters regarding the replacement and repair work on balconies and balustrades. The original estimates and tenders were around £350k for all works. This has now risen to £600k. He told me yesterday that they want £6k off him for the work, to be paid within 21 days. They originally said about 2k. They sent lists of tenders for each job but haven't said why they picked the ones they did.

What is he supposed to do if he hasn't got it? I'd appreciate any advice.
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  • Comms69
    Comms69 Posts: 14,229 Forumite
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    Has the freeholder not got a sinking fund to use for this type of work? The accounts should be available yearly.
  • eddddy
    eddddy Posts: 18,210 Forumite
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    There should have been a 'section 20 consultation' process - which typically takes around 6 months. I guess that's what he means by "he recently got letters".
    You can also look at this page entitled "My landlord has carried out Section 20 consultation but I am still unhappy about the service charges I’m being asked to pay. What can I do?":
    As the link says, if your father thinks the cost is 'unreasonable', he can challenge it.

    But 'unreasonable' in this context might mean the work is not necessary or it should be possible to do it more cheaply.

    Unfortunately, it doesn't mean 'unreasonable' in the sense that your father might not be able to afford it.
  • Thanks for the replies. I'll be honest, I haven't much of a clue about leasehold or the situation my father is in.

    I do recall him getting letters several months ago, stating the works should be in the £350k region. That the works now have risen to £600k seems unreasonable.

    I shall make enquiries regarding the sinking fund.

    Much appreciated, thank you.
  • IAmWales
    IAmWales Posts: 2,024 Forumite
    Is your father in receipt of means tested benefits? If so he may be eligible for assistance in paying the charge.

    Always worth looking into whether there are any links between the managing agent/ landlord and the contractor that has been awarded the contract. I've had a bill reduced when I discovered that one of the MA directors was also on the board at the contractor!
  • eddddy
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    edited 23 November 2017 at 1:06PM
    angeuk wrote: »
    I do recall him getting letters several months ago, stating the works should be in the £350k region. That the works now have risen to £600k seems unreasonable.

    I see what you're saying - but that's not how 'unreasonable'/'reasonable' is defined in the Landlord and Tenant Act 1985.

    To show that £600k is not 'reasonable', you could start by getting a chartered surveyor's report saying that the balconies should cost less than £600k to fix.


    (It may be that the freeholder was incompetent in initially estimating the repair cost at £350k, when in fact £600k was a 'reasonable' cost - but that's a different issue. And it's not a basis for paying a reduced amount.)
  • IAmWales wrote: »
    Is your father in receipt of means tested benefits? If so he may be eligible for assistance in paying the charge.

    Always worth looking into whether there are any links between the managing agent/ landlord and the contractor that has been awarded the contract. I've had a bill reduced when I discovered that one of the MA directors was also on the board at the contractor!

    Ii will look into that. They do seem to use one contractor for almost everything. Thanks.
  • lincroft1710
    lincroft1710 Posts: 19,110 Forumite
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    angeuk wrote: »
    They do seem to use one contractor for almost everything. Thanks.

    There is nothing wrong with that if the contractor is reliable, does a good job and is competitive in their prices.
    If you are querying your Council Tax band would you please state whether you are in England, Scotland or Wales
  • Wow. Harsh to choose to live somewhere and then get letters telling you to pay and you have no choice of contractor or amount paid. I'd refuse to pay, sell up and buy a freehold.
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  • Chappers27 wrote: »
    Wow. Harsh to choose to live somewhere and then get letters telling you to pay and you have no choice of contractor or amount paid. I'd refuse to pay, sell up and buy a freehold.

    And that is going to cost less than £6000?
  • C_Mababejive
    C_Mababejive Posts: 11,668 Forumite
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    And here is a very good reason to think very carefully about buying a flat/apartment.
    Feudal Britain needs land reform. 70% of the land is "owned" by 1 % of the population and at least 50% is unregistered (inherited by landed gentry). Thats why your slave box costs so much..
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