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  • I wasn't charged with anything but I think I was cautioned, fast forward to today. Any advice?

    You think you were cautioned - either you were or weren't? Is this the wider issue?

    (I'm sincerely hoping this isn't a mickey take on those who do get fired.)

    If it get's to much mentally, you move on. You've more time behind you and improved yourself.

    I also believe in second chances - once saw a colleague who in similar circumstances one day appearing in the local garage after they had done their time, I'd never acknowledged how I knew them as it would be too difficult for both of us.

    Don't upset yourself and log off x
  • It was quite a while ago and I was not in a good place when I was at the police station, so I can't remember the ins and outs of what happened I'm affraid and if I received any paperwork I immediately binned it 😢 The area manager in question is an awful person and it worries me she will wait a while then ruin my life
  • scd3scd4
    scd3scd4 Posts: 1,180 Forumite
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    I see no reason why she should stick her beak in. It was over 3 years ago and she is not in HR. I considered it unprofessional and a scum bag thing to do!!
  • I think that regardless of this situation you need to find out whether you were cautioned or not, as that is acceptance of guilt in the eyes of the law.
  • I probably was cautioned then because I accepted that I stole, offered to repay the money but the employer declined, then a month later the police asked me to come to the station.
  • elsien
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    You can check with a subject access request.

    https://www.gov.uk/copy-of-police-records
    All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.

    Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.
  • Obviously OP we can't guarantee anything but my gut feeling is that the vast majority of people if they were the area manager wouldn't be bothered or arsed to cause you issues.

    Just carry on and hope it doesn't come to light IMO, perhaps start looking for a new job so your latest employer becomes a clean reference?
    Don't trust a forum for advice. Get proper paid advice. Any advice given should always be checked
  • TBagpuss
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    OP, as others have said, the manager could say something (although they might be on slightly rocky ground if they did, depending on what rules your former employer has about privacy etc, them gossiping about information they gained in the course of their employment might amount to misconduct on their part. Also, they have no way to know what you did not didn't tell your current employer - for all she knows they were fully aware of the cirumstances.

    It is possible that if your current employer does find out, they may consider it to be misconduct on your part that you misled them about it, and could in theory chose to discipline or dismiss you BUT but hopefully the fact that you have worked there for 3 years with (presumably) no issues will work in your favour, and a busybody coming in and trying to cause trouble isn't going to look good.
    All posts are my personal opinion, not formal advice Always get proper, professional advice (particularly about anything legal!)
  • Comms69
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    I probably was cautioned then because I accepted that I stole, offered to repay the money but the employer declined, then a month later the police asked me to come to the station.
    You would know because you have to accept a caution, it cant be forced upon you
  • All it will take is for your old boss to come out with a comment like “watch your handbag round that one” or “just don’t leave her in charge of the money” and you’ll be answering some awkward questions. Best to come clean with your current employers and tell them that you left because you were fired because you were a thief. They’ll appreciate your eventual honesty, leave out all the BS about mental health and not getting on with your boss, nobody cares about that.

    Good luck.
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