Blue Badges becoming useless?

tomtom256

bigbulldog wrote: »

How about holding the kids hands surely as there is no such thing as an unsafe car park more like unsafe parents tbh.

All this nonsense about children's parking is utter dribble why can't they use normal bays like we used to for decades when our children were young the only thing that has changed is the size of the 4x4s they have to have.

Disabled bays are for bluebadge holders only if none are available then the last resort use a child bay as the need for the disabled person far out weighs the need of a child with a parent.:)

Yep I'll do that whilst using my sticks and whilst my autistic child suddenly has a meltdown with no warning for an unknown reason whilst trying to walk across the car park and they suddenly bolt as we couldn't park safely near to store as all the disabled bays are taken by non BB holders and all the parent bays are then taken by the BB holders.

But hang on that would be the easy option so that someone more disabled! can park.

See herein starts the circle of problems it causes that go ignored as a's disability is worse then b's etc.

mrcol1000

My Mum let me walk to school. I crossed busy roads and everything. She'd be done for child abuse nowadays.

The sad truth is that some people are selfish and they always have an excuse to justify it. While most disabled people don't say anything when they can't use the facility provided for them because its being misused. They just struggle on the best they can.

Rocketdogroya

I have it on good authority from my carer who is also a mother of two small kids that dealing with a wheelchair is in no way comparable to a pushchair. An adult and a large chunky wheel chair is so much harder to manage than a 2 year old that you can still pick up and carry and a flimsy lightweight push chair. Making the transition into a vehicle easier for the parent.
If we are out and the BB are full my partner will find a normal space at the back of the car park that will have extra space around it as he doesn't mind the extra pushing but he is very fit and strong and can easily get a wheelchair up curbs est. My carer on the other hand finds it harder as she is small of stature so struggles more and we would therefore use a P&C bay. It also depends on the car park how hard it is going to be. I therefore think my disability is only at the forefront when other options are a detriment but if it came to it a wheelchair should be more of a priority than a pushchair.
If a child is disabled enough to require a BB they should have one but if they are not allowed one if not I think the point is mout!
The real issue is people parking in a disabled bay with out a badge forcing BB holders to use P&C bays. I once complained as a Royal Mail van was in a disabled spot he said that his superiors had told him to if the other bays were taken! I think that is a disgusting ethic from a National company like that!

LABMAN

I don't think most disabled people would mind if an adult with an opposite sex child used the disabled toilet rather than the 'wrong' one!

GlasweJen

tomtom256 wrote: »

Yep I'll do that whilst using my sticks and whilst my autistic child suddenly has a meltdown with no warning for an unknown reason whilst trying to walk across the car park and they suddenly bolt as we couldn't park safely near to store as all the disabled bays are taken by non BB holders and all the parent bays are then taken by the BB holders.

But hang on that would be the easy option so that someone more disabled! can park.

See herein starts the circle of problems it causes that go ignored as a's disability is worse then b's etc.

I really don’t get what you want anyone to do in the above situation. What if you go shopping and the blue badge spaces are all occupied by blue badge holders (all with wheelchairs to remove the “they’re not really disabled and badges are given out too easily” arguments), and all the parent and child spaces are being used by the parents of young, non mobile children in push chairs, what do you do?

In my situation we don’t park up the back of the car park because when we used to do that no matter how far away we parked we’d always come back to someone parked on either side of us with the rest of the car park empty (just why?). We now change our plans and go elsewhere or home unless it’s the supermarket mentioned above where I get left in the atrium with the dog and cause a traffic disturbance because the staff know us and know that if they need to move me the dog and the bag have to stay with me.

Do you or your child have a badge? The spaces are designed for parents of young children so when your child is no longer under 8 or whatever the cut off is will you stop using the spaces regardless of his difficulties? Do you know the spaces can be removed at a whim as they have no legal standing and shops are not obliged to provide them?

GlasweJen

LABMAN wrote: »

I don't think most disabled people would mind if an adult with an opposite sex child used the disabled toilet rather than the 'wrong' one!

Actually when there’s only one disabled toilet and the child is of an age where they can manage the toilet on their own and chooses to faff about in the toilet it is really annoying. Perverts don’t lurk in every corner and children can toilet themselves at school so why not in shopping centres?

unforeseen

Do you know the spaces can be removed at a whim as they have no legal standing and shops are not obliged to provide them

and in a private car park disabled bays have to be provided BUT have no legal standing so not a great deal of difference between the 2.

KxMx

tomtom256 wrote: »

Yep I'll do that whilst using my sticks and whilst my autistic child suddenly has a meltdown with no warning for an unknown reason whilst trying to walk across the car park and they suddenly bolt as we couldn't park safely near to store as all the disabled bays are taken by non BB holders and all the parent bays are then taken by the BB holders.

But hang on that would be the easy option so that someone more disabled! can park.

See herein starts the circle of problems it causes that go ignored as a's disability is worse then b's etc.

I think your circumstances mean it's not appropriate to park far away then cross the car park with your child.

However, I do think for most parents it is appropriate and see where the poster was coming from.

tomtom256

GlasweJen wrote: »

I really don’t get what you want anyone to do in the above situation. What if you go shopping and the blue badge spaces are all occupied by blue badge holders (all with wheelchairs to remove the “they’re not really disabled and badges are given out too easily” arguments), and all the parent and child spaces are being used by the parents of young, non mobile children in push chairs, what do you do?

In my situation we don’t park up the back of the car park because when we used to do that no matter how far away we parked we’d always come back to someone parked on either side of us with the rest of the car park empty (just why?). We now change our plans and go elsewhere or home unless it’s the supermarket mentioned above where I get left in the atrium with the dog and cause a traffic disturbance because the staff know us and know that if they need to move me the dog and the bag have to stay with me.

Do you or your child have a badge? The spaces are designed for parents of young children so when your child is no longer under 8 or whatever the cut off is will you stop using the spaces regardless of his difficulties? Do you know the spaces can be removed at a whim as they have no legal standing and shops are not obliged to provide them?

I do have a BB, but if all the accessible spaces are taken, I would come back a different day.

But what generally happens in my local is that non-BB holders park in the BB bays and the BB holders then use the parent bays and as it is private land nothing gets done regarding the issue.

You mention it to the store, but just get the we can't do anything about it stance, which then makes you wonder why bother with signage stating BB holders only. As all park wherever they like anyway.

custardy

tomtom256 wrote: »

I do have a BB, but if all the accessible spaces are taken, I would come back a different day.

But what generally happens in my local is that non-BB holders park in the BB bays and the BB holders then use the parent bays and as it is private land nothing gets done regarding the issue.

You mention it to the store, but just get the we can't do anything about it stance, which then makes you wonder why bother with signage stating BB holders only. As all park wherever they like anyway.

What do you feel they can do?