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Council Tax Disparity

I am currently renovating a flat for renting out. It is completely empty without any residents. Why is it that my local council says I have to pay the full council tax after the first month, when a single person in a property can get a 25% discount?
Surely with no residents, local services are not being used. This seems a crazy anomaly.

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  • davidmcn
    davidmcn Posts: 23,596 Forumite
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    Council tax isn't a poll tax, or a charge for services used, it's just a tax - larger households don't get charged extra either. I suppose it could be a deterrent against properties being left unoccupied.
  • marliepanda
    marliepanda Posts: 7,186 Forumite
    It’s to discourage empty properties. You have a second property, not a residential property with one occupant.

    Not using any services? You’re not gonna put anything in your bins whilst renovating?

    Happy for the fire service to ignore your house if it’s on fire?

    Happy for the police to ignore vandalism on your house?

    You can afford to go into the BTL business. You can afford the council tax.
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    because it's an empty house that could in theory be used to house someone in need.

    Hence the incentive to get the renovationsfinshed asap rather than leaving it empty for months/years waiting for prices to rise......
  • 00ec25
    00ec25 Posts: 9,123 Forumite
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    edited 18 November 2017 at 9:25PM
    be grateful you got a month, since the rules were changed to allow council to set their own discount rules some places would not have given you even 1 day's "empty" zero rate

    as for the idea the property does not "consume" services, are you serious? just stop and think about where the house is located, it is not a boat on the open sea, it is "connected". Why should I pay for people who use the NHS, I don't.
  • 3card
    3card Posts: 437 Forumite
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    My local council also give zero days grace for empty properties.
    Just to point out also, if the property has been empty for 2 years (even if it includes a previous owner) they charge a 50% surcharge on the council tax to try to avoid empty properties
  • CIS
    CIS Posts: 12,260 Forumite
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    As budgets are cut Local Authorities have used their delegated powers to reduce the discounts to 0% in a lot of cases (the government did say they'd hope the councils wouldn't do that...) to try and recoup the monies as much as possible. The same applies to the 50% premium - the council can add a premium of 'up to 50%' but very few applied less than the full amount.
    I no longer work in Council Tax Recovery but instead work as a specialist Council Tax paralegal assisting landlords and Council Tax payers with council tax disputes and valuation tribunals. My views are my own reading of the law and you should always check with the local authority in question.
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