Grievance or resignation

sangie595

OP, you were looking for advice and knew it was a long shot? No, you weren't looking for advice. You were looking for people who agreed you were being badly treated.

Now, to start off with, you haven't actually said anything that is even worth complaining about, never mind putting in a grievance about! And I'm sorry to have to point this out, but this is symptomatic of your posting history. You have started a job (or you once had a job) where everything is wrong and you have to leave within weeks. It's always everybody else. It's never you. The complaints ramble around so that nobody can figure out what you are talking about. It may be something that you can't recognise, but nobody gets into this many wrong jobs and this much trouble every job they have unless it is of their own making.

And, as pointed out, you show a complete disregard and respect for your management and your colleagues - repeatedly. Now that would be poor manners and worse performance if you happened to be the CEO - as the rather low level newbie, it is both those things and also a death wish. You think nothing at all of criticising people who are doing the job, and have been doing the job to the employers satisfaction for some time - and all the while it is you who are being told that your performance isn't up to standard. Do you think that this is the way to get on with your manager, your colleagues, and your job?

Perhaps the advice you are getting doesn't suit you. But you would be well advised to give it a lot of thought, or the next time you are posting this will be another former job that you have failed at. You are a few weeks into the job. You have already been warned about performance. You have alienated your manager. And probably your colleagues. If you carry on this way you won't last until Christmas. Now you are the one that says you can't afford to be out of work and no benefits. If that is the case, stick your head down and get on with the job they expect you to do. On the other hand, if you really don't get it, then resign now. At least that way you won't be walking away with a bad reference.

FBaby

The company is not there to make your life pleasant, not until you've proven so indispensable that they will be prepared to be flexible so not to lose you. You seem to be far away from this situation, so your priority at the moment is to get there and THEN, you can start bringing up what you think might be a fairer arrangement.

[Deleted User]

Thanks Fbaby, the job always has had an end date on it and company history of letting people go at 3 months who don't cut it so I was being a tad presumptuous anyhow, just thinking I'm going to try staying quiet and keep the grateful to finish date in mind, rather then end up with nothing now I've thought on.

[Deleted User]

sangie595 wrote: »

At least that way you won't be walking away with a bad reference.

Least of my worries.

Industry dependent - There is no statutory obligation for employers to provides references. These days.

I appreciate it is not something someone of many years employment grasps but the short term market that exists to ensure people aren't long term in jobs now also aren't about providing references.

I know you can't believe it but I do have a piece of paper company letter headed from my last TEMPORARY job which is not a reference but provides dates of employment and job title. Having the letter goes some way to confirming I left on good terms to be in receipt off in first instance.

4 nearly 5 years of working without a day's sick means I won't be taking to heart what someone writes on a public forum to make another feel small.

Red-Squirrel_2

So you aren't going to clarify what has actually happened that you're upset about then? Because none of us actually know...

sangie595

Deleted%20User wrote: »

Least of my worries.

Industry dependent - There is no statutory obligation for employers to provides references. These days.

I appreciate it is not something someone of many years employment grasps but the short term market that exists to ensure people aren't long term in jobs now also aren't about providing references.

I know you can't believe it but I do have a piece of paper company letter headed from my last TEMPORARY job which is not a reference but provides dates of employment and job title. Having the letter goes some way to confirming I left on good terms to be in receipt off in first instance.

4 nearly 5 years of working without a day's sick means I won't be taking to heart what someone writes on a public forum to make another feel small.

You do realise that a basic reference is still a reference?

And at that point I give up. Nothing was said to make you "feel small" - by me or anyone else. You asked, and you got answers. The fact that you did not like the answers does not make them wrong or personal attacks. Your approach to the responses does suggest that, if this is the approach you take at work - that everyone else is wrong and out to get at you - then that explains why you so often post about all the bad employment experiences that you have had. Not everything is about you. Or about treating you the way that you demand to be.

IAmWales

4 nearly 5 years of working without a day's sick means I won't be taking to heart what someone writes on a public forum to make another feel small.

Your sickness record is not the issue here. Your inability to stick at a job long term is.

Are you going to tell us what your current issue is?

hyubh

Deleted%20User wrote: »

In a situation where I feel like I'm starting to feel like I'm being made to argue, after a second flare up concerning same issue in one week alone, I wonder how many times this is going to happen and whether I should be making steps toward raising a grievance

At the risk of joining the chorus (I actually agree with you on the 'small' comment), I've read your original post several times, and like most the other posters I'm completely at a loss as to what the 'situation' you want advice on actually is. Not trying to be difficult - it's like you copied and pasted from Word or whatever into the comment box, but missed a few sentences out.

custardy

Op,you might not have been of sick.
However your entire post/response history heres makes me wonder if you need a visit to the doctors.
You are making little sense.

stuartJo1989

Yea, I have to say but I read your whole original post and I have no idea what your issue is? Not in a bad way, its just not jumping out at me.

The likes of sangie and other posters have taken a fair stab at making sense of it, but you've seemingly had a pop at them? Seems a bit weird.

All I can say is that I've been in a call center in the past, both as an agent and as someone who told people when to go on their breaks! Do you know how much grief I got telling certain people when to go on their break?! Too much compared to how much I got paid.... that much is true! I assume, especially with Agent 1, that's the sort of thing which is doing your head in? Favouritism etc?

You should just chill out here. If they are paying you to monitor other agents then fair enough, sell them down the river. OTHERWISE, keep your trap shut and just get on with the job. Do that and you'll be fine. Do it not and you'll be on the dole in a few weeks.