UC - What's the Endgame for the Unemployable?

cryptic_alias

Hello All.

Just wondering what, if any, measures are ultimately taken when a typical, single claimant consistently fails to secure employment despite adhering to all the terms of their commitment?
How long can this continue, weeks, months, years?

Any advice much appreciated.

Regards

Browntoa

If you are adhering to their targets and rules then there's no limit.

Sanctions only kick in if you fail

trigger_fish

cryptic_alias wrote: »

Hello All.

Just wondering what, if any, measures are ultimately taken when a typical, single claimant consistently fails to secure employment despite adhering to all the terms of their commitment?
How long can this continue, weeks, months, years?

Any advice much appreciated.

Regards

Sometimes you simply can't find a job.

TELLIT01

trigger_fish wrote: »

Sometimes you simply can't find a job.

There's a big difference between not being able to find a job and being unemployable. Some 'can't find a job' because they don't want to and are very clever at making sure they aren't selected when sent for interview. Some 'can't find a job' because they are too choosy about what they are willing to do. Some 'can't find a job' quite genuinely because of a limited job market in their area and their personal situation e.g. childcare, means they are limited in the hours they can work.
There are those who are truly unemployable either because of physical or mental impairment amongst other reasons.

cryptic_alias

Interesting...thanks

cryptic_alias

I see what you mean. Thanks for explaining!

[Deleted User]

TELLIT01 wrote: »

There are those who are truly unemployable either because of physical or mental impairment amongst other reasons.

Sorry, I don't accept that. There are lots of people with physical and mental health conditions who work.

Not working is a choice and some people put so much effort into not finding a job that is their job! Those people are very keen to tell you why they can't do something rather than thinking about what they can do.

If there are no local jobs, then you need to travel. If you don't have skills, there is training for free. There's tons of help and advice out there for even the most "unemployable" person.

pepper77_2

There is nothing like a "can do" attitude.

[Deleted User]

Lovely rant there from Penitent.

There are, of course, situations where it's not practical or reasonable for someone to work. If you are born with a severe disability there isn't much you can do. There are also lots of people who get ill and can't work for a period of time.

I still maintain though that there are very, very few people who, throughout their entire life, can't work.

166million

What sort of job do you do when you have stress and depression and can't cope with any additional pressure? Not saying one couldn't work in these circumstances, just asking for a friend

TELLIT01

camelot1971 wrote: »

Sorry, I don't accept that. There are lots of people with physical and mental health conditions who work.

Not working is a choice and some people put so much effort into not finding a job that is their job! Those people are very keen to tell you why they can't do something rather than thinking about what they can do.

If there are no local jobs, then you need to travel. If you don't have skills, there is training for free. There's tons of help and advice out there for even the most "unemployable" person.

I accept that there are lots of people with physical and/or mental impairments who can work, and I haven't said otherwise. For some people not working IS as choice, for others with disability it is not. I know this from personal family experience.
My brother suffered severe head injuries in a car crash and was never expected to be able to operate independantly again. He defied all the odds and did get back to work for a period, albeit in a job specially created for him by his employer who respected what my brother had achieved. When the company closed down my brother undertook various training courses, and unpaid placements with companies. One company actually said he was good at the job, but when the placement ended they could get somebody else free so his job ended.
As he got older the effects of the head injuries became more pronounced and he had problems with short term memory. Following his death I came across two health assessments done approximately 5 years apart. The first stated that he would be fit for a job which entailed simple,repetitive actions as that was all he could retain. The later one stated that in the view of the assessor he was not fit for any meaningful job and was -in their words - now deemed unemployable.
So I would suggest that before you shoot your mouth off about not working being a choice, you look at those with limitations who desperately want to work but can't find an employer to take them on.