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GunJack

sounds like you should go to your union's head office for an unbiased view, rather than a local rep who may be subject to management pressures....this does all sound underhand..

woolly_wombat

aliavavodka wrote: »

I have not had an occupational health assessment, just been told repeatedly that I don't qualify for ill health pension

That doesn't sound as if correct procedure has been followed.

woolly_wombat

GunJack wrote: »

sounds like you should go to your union's head office for an unbiased view, rather than a local rep who may be subject to management pressures....this does all sound underhand..

I have to admit that when I tried a similar approach with a poorly-informed union rep I was referred back to him from on high.

I got more help on these boards from knowledgeable LGPS experts.

woolly_wombat

Don't forget what Silvertabby said in #11, specifically:

Don't let your HR fob you off with 'you are being made redundant - end of' - you are entitled to ask for an ill health referral to Occ Health.

aliavavodka

Well, I was made redundant just after Christmas.
I visited my surgeon in January, had a few tests done and another mri.
I've just been to see him, for the results, and he said that in his opinion I will not improve any more than I have. I explained that I have managed to get a job, working 10 hours a week , and that I could not work any longer hours. He said he would write a letter stating that due to my condition I could not work more than 10 hours a week.
Now I know that I will have to be seen by someone else, and assessed, but would this be proof for the "gainful employment ".
Many thanks Alison

aliavavodka

Have been assessed by a nurse, she has referred me to oh, she believes that either tier 1 or 2 are an option, but as I have not been employed by the uni for the last 9 months, my pension isn't worth much, and altho I can work no more than 10 hours a week ( sometimes less) it pays more than my pension, and I've been told I can't work and claim it..........

GunJack

aliavavodka wrote: »

Have been assessed by a nurse, she has referred me to oh, she believes that either tier 1 or 2 are an option, but as I have not been employed by the uni for the last 9 months, my pension isn't worth much, and altho I can work no more than 10 hours a week ( sometimes less) it pays more than my pension, and I've been told I can't work and claim it..........

If you've got 29 years service in - both the redundancy you were quoting earlier and the inference that your pension will be very small, don't seem quite right somehow....are you sure your employer/LGPS have got their figures right??

aliavavodka

GunJack wrote: »

If you've got 29 years service in - both the redundancy you were quoting earlier and the inference that your pension will be very small, don't seem quite right somehow....are you sure your employer/LGPS have got their figures right??

I'm sure they are right, as possibly 10 of those years I was working part time, and the others only working 32 hours. I can't remember when the rules changed, but at first I couldn't join the pension because part timers couldn't.
Just checked, I've paid into the pension fund for 17 years

hyubh

she believes that either tier 1 or 2 are an option [...] altho I can work no more than 10 hours a week ( sometimes less) it pays more than my pension, and I've been told I can't work and claim it

10 hours a week maximum (assuming that is accurate) will not reach the standard of 'gainful employment' that would disbar you from an ill health pension.

as I have not been employed by the uni for the last 9 months, my pension isn't worth much

Do you mean, you are not in active membership of the LGPS any more, and therefore an ill health retirement from deferred will be applicable? If so, talk of the three tiers becomes irrelevant, and you would get the equivalent of a tier 3, without the reassessment after three years.

aliavavodka wrote: »

I'm sure they are right, as possibly 10 of those years I was working part time, and the others only working 32 hours.

That doesn't make any sense to me, sorry.

I can't remember when the rules changed, but at first I couldn't join the pension because part timers couldn't.
Just checked, I've paid into the pension fund for 17 years

17 years ago was 2001. Part timers became eligible en masse in the mid-90s, with a few years backdating possible if they paid the contributions - so presumably you chose to opt out at first...?

To be honest, your latest posts sound a bit like the blind has led the partially sighted. From what I can figure out, you haven't given any strong reason not to still formally request an ill health retirement.

aliavavodka

hyubh wrote: »

10 hours a week maximum (assuming that is accurate) will not reach the standard of 'gainful employment' that would disbar you from an ill health pension.
Are you saying I can work and claim?


Do you mean, you are not in active membership of the LGPS any more, and therefore an ill health retirement from deferred will be applicable? If so, talk of the three tiers becomes irrelevant, and you would get the equivalent of a tier 3, without the reassessment after three years.

Yes it will be a deferred I'll health retirement, payments to date gives me a pension of £80 a week but I assume this will mean it will be less. It was the nurse that told me that she thinks I should qualify for tier 1 or 2

That doesn't make any sense to me, sorry.





17 years ago was 2001. Part timers became eligible en masse in the mid-90s, with a few years backdating possible if they paid the contributions - so presumably you chose to opt out at first...?

To be honest, your latest posts sound a bit like the blind has led the partially sighted. From what I can figure out, you haven't given any strong reason not to still formally request an ill health retirement.

You are correct, I have no idea what I'm talking about with regards to pensions I'm afraid.
I should of listened to people on here and insisted on being assessed for Ill health instead of redundancy.