Elite 11+ shopping and chat thread part 2½

Savvybuyer

Actually I will mention - I really am blathering on about autism (more accurately, my autism and I must be accurate) but it's interesting isn't it? - it's not blathering on, it's "useful contribution to public knowledge:D;)" - ooo, get you Savvy, big words like that! - but, about thinking of something being "bizarre", it's said that those of us who have Asperger's (or wider autism conditions) find the world a strange and confusing place.

I don't think this is actually true with me. Yet again, a misunderstanding of me if you think I think in such a straightforward way:rotfl:. It's not that I find the world strange and/or confusing or at least, during my younger years (childhood about age of 4 or 5 into my 20s and 30s), it wasn't confusing/strange - I knew, from a very young age, that you don't run round outside naked but taking clothes off inside a changing room or in order to try them on in a locked department store fitting room is perfectly fine - I never really thought about any inconsistency there - allowable one place but not in others why is that etc.? - why that place where it is okay but not the other where is it not? - that never occured to me - this is the sort of thing I can see that some other people with autism might have, or at least initially until they are told - but all it was for me was that I never made friends, despite being, as I saw it, friendly, and didn't know why people didn't seem to like me - maybe they think I smell, I don't know - but never mind, if you don't want me maybe someone else will - but still no real luck, I got on with people and didn't seem to cause ruptures or any disharmony but never as friends only in a another student or a colleague sense. All my "friends" were through places like school, college or work or people I dealt with professionally (I didn't get friendly with those though, just like I don't see getting involved with someone at a checkout till - still less to even try to have a relationship with them as you don't do that sort of thing).

So, there wasn't any strange or confusing world and other people didn't seem bizarre. It was just I never made friends, don't know why but maybe just that person doesn't like me. I didn't know that I have Asperger's for a long time - although, way before anyone else, I been aware of the condition and considered the possibility for about a week decades ago and then wrongly ruled it out: I didn't get straight As in all my exams so thought it was impossible - turns out I misunderstood and it's not necessary to have that for the criteria - I certainly didn't know any of the detailed things about it I know now - and it's a lot more faceted and now I can see all these things.

I do see things differently after I was diagnosed and started reading more about it and discovering more and then realising that everything I had ever done in my life was because of this. The way I didn't look out at people in the crowd properly at my graduation ceremony decades ago. Little things like that - in fact everything I've ever done in the entirety of my life. It's an Asperger's person full stop. It's interesting putting my life in that context (which I have done on a small number of times since my diagnosis, spaced at variant intervals). Now I look at things, aware of my diagnosis, and see things differently from before because I'm now aware of things I may be missing and I am wondering whether they are there and whether I am missing them. Trying to see the invisible:rotfl:. It's different, it's interesting (almost everything is interesting to me - except that I wouldn't ever be interested in abusive images or anything wrong like that - not just because of my compliance with the rules would completely ban that but because of my own sense completely against it) and - I didn't find the world confusing or strange, but it's 'confusing', and seems strange - the 'confusion' of a type I like though (sometimes:rotfl:), in that I like to solve it - the confusing and strange is when I am now looking into it and trying to understand it:rotfl:.

The world is not a confusing and strange place. People's behaviour is confusing and strange now I am looking into it:rotfl:. It's not confusing really (now - are you confused?:rotfl: - well it is and it isn't - I'm confusing everyone now - see I'm now in non-autistic grey and not on black-and-white - I can understand on one level why people might be like they are - or see how social things like chatting are (usually) a "good" thing - not if people are arguing, but that's not "chatting" I suppose (now I am splitting hairs and getting, according to other's possible perspective, confused between arguing and chatting) - but the way in which some social rules are, that is not written down, there are some what seem bizarre rituals. There is no reason. I don't mean proper social convention - not eating with your mouth full, I can understand that - though obviously in the most informal settings at some homes even that seems to be "acceptable" as some people even breach that - it's not a strict rule - but it is impolite in many settings - no problem over that (maybe I even understand it better than anyone else) - it's other things, that are away from that, a couple of those I can think of that, when I was informed by someone about them, seemed to me bizarre (and still do - the people telling have been incomplete and not explained the reason for them - I suspect there is none) - there's a couple of those, of those that I have so far discovered - I suspect that, at the age of over forty, there are still other "rules" that I have yet to know about that I will only find if I ever encounter a situatiin and apparently do something wrong that I never knew about. And, elsewhere, I've even, decades ago, read books on etiquette asd was absolutely with knowing those rules already - but they've even pulled two rules on me on those areas over the course of my life and claimed they were "etiquette" and that "you don't do that because it's not etiquette" apparently, that weren't even specified or mentioned or referred to in any of those books:rotfl:.

It's no good looking at books - they are theory, not practice - they don't have everything in them, even when they claim to be "comprehensive" guides - another white lie no doubt:rotfl:!:D:laugh:

I didn't actually pull out a book and say "look, it says it's a comprehensive guide - a guide that has everything therefore" and I'm therefore not in breach of any rules - I didn't have such a book around me by that time anyway - I thought, by then, years on into my life I already knew everything - instead :(I apologised meekly (just so compliant and uable to persuade or negotiate with others) and resolved to myself never to do the same thing again (whilst later thinking "I didn't know that that was etiquette - no-one ever told me" - that itself, came quite a few years before my diagnosis - now, again, the reason why seems clear and all fits back into this). I'm actually not that bad (or at least think I'm not) - I'm picking tiny little instances from a whole period of years of life and (probably) painting a worse picture of myself than is actually the case by just concentrating on those few things but examples of very slight, minor perceived infractions that haven't, overall, really caused the world to have repeated problems with me to such an extent that it found me really wrong and therefore I've not been too wrong. The irony is that, it seems, I pick up on tiny little details of words that put others in breach or find pedantic corrections than they (somehow:rotfl::rotfl:) don't like (I laugh because I can [Strike]understand[/Strike] no that's wrong - I can see - not fully understand, understand but not fully - why people don't like them) where, technically, I am always or often correct and then I get 'caught' by - it's even upset me at times before in my life (before I knew my Asperger's) - I've even fallen out with people saying that they are trying to catch me out and them claiming "no, we are not trying to catch you out", even though they were, or at least I thought so - it seems I get "caught out" by tiny little social rules that were unannounced. They pick on the tiniest detail that's the irony! I've found it at times frustrating not having any success getting relationships in my life, despite what I felt were all the efforts I had made (and I really cannot do any more than what efforts I was doing). I have doubtless caused immense frustration to others that I have never known about, and still don't know about to this day. Now, I don't get frustrated at unsuccessful attempts (I have just ceased trying to attempt in the first place:rotfl:) but more often than not, I just laugh (later on, when away from people in front of whom laughing and not explaining why to them would cause upset) about why things have just gone the way they have.

I sit there, now, being ignored in what should be frustrating to me (in the past I was unaware I even was being ignored, inadvertently ignored so wasn't frustrated was just made to wait patiently and patiently) and instead just being slightly amused that that is happening, when I ought to be frustrated by it, and other people being given preference.

matty17r

Managed to do 4x £10 fill ups at sainsbury yesterday got 3x 500 and 1 200 so worth the effort. OH fills the car up each time separately and I stand at the till. No problems encountered. Just make sure you dont get in the way of other customers trying to pay.

Fed up with energy suppliers had another big rant with EON today holding on to my money for a month when I have left and having to chase them up. I asked for compensation first time and they said no. He then said can I close your complaint and I said defiitely no - he would put me through to someone else. I held on for ages and couldnt get through so put the phone down. They rang me back in seconds and offered me five pounds compo which I accepted and they said again can they close the case. Of course, I said lol. I have done this on 3 occasions now when their customer service is not what it should be so worth bearing in mind when poor service is involved.

Just done a shoppers thoughts survey and some of it was based on the free crisps magazine for tesco. Of course, I gave it five stars all the way through

juju17

My tuna was £1.35 sunflower oil 3 tin pack...barcode ends 57785

matty17r

Thanks for the headsup on the tuna and suncream. I have been looking at the suncream on the clearance counters in various shops but have not seen any as cheap as MKS got so will keep hunting.

mhoc

Evening all

Sainsburys was disappointing. All I got was two lots of 500 and the rest were 200 pointers from swipe and win.
I did four lots of £10 petrol and one cat food shop - six cans x4 and milk - they have put up the cat food 10p

On the plus side one of the shops produced an 80 bonus till spit for Arla organic milk - the nice milk which was on COS in the summer. Its on offer again but £1.35 instead of £1.25 that it was in the summer. The full fat version tastes yum in porridge and muesli -we'd not tasted full fat milk before it was on COS so it was quite a revelation

At least both cars have full tanks and we have cat food cans for a couple of weeks - some weeks its about the only thing we buy so if we dont need to go it stops impulse buying.

I am quite tempted to get some Argos gift cards tommorow. Its a pity they dont sell John Lewis £10 gift cards that could be used in Waitrose

newbie1980

nettiebobs wrote: »

When is this please? Ive still got £22 on my card.

https://www.sainsburys.co.uk/shop/gb/groceries/get-ideas/-national-curry-week-/our-brand-features/double-up

Savvybuyer

nettiebobs wrote: »

Doesn't work on crackers, I tried it and computer says 'no'.:rotfl:

I thought people might find it wasn't crackers. Well, it is crackers frankly not to accept something like that:rotfl::rotfl:. But no, I meant I thought people might find it wouldn't work on crackers, because they are crispy crackers and it doesn't say "baked", that it says on the coupons, but that's just me and ever pedantry again!:D:D:T:rotfl:

I suspect it may be annoying to other people that go and see if it works on crackers only to find it does not. At least if the situation is the way you are telling us it is (and I have no reason to doubt). Whereas I, in my later annoying, "told you so" way:p - I don't mean that, I'm just exaggerating and joking:rotfl::rotfl: - would never think to try crackers in the first place as I haven't got any that are "baked". Besides, baked crisps - "crisps" aren't "crackers"! Yet again, pedantic, pedantic, pedantic... at every stage. And then I'd probably find I had tried no crackers and failed to get any, only to discover that someone else had thought to try them, even if not technically within the words, and found that they had worked as this time they had decided not to follow what they'd said and now randomly, inconsistently and haphazardly decided to accept them anyway:mad:. That's the confusing part of this world:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:.

Actually it's not - it's just sometimes computer systems fail, sometimes they are programmed 'wrongly' and pick up what they 'shouldn't', sometimes people somewhere misunderstand and put something else into the system, sometimes they don't use the right words or go for a pragmatic gist approach that I miss through examining that coupon finely and in detail and looking at the individual words.

I used to know what crackers and crisps were. I think sometimes you (no, I) get into so much depth you lose sight of what things are. Then I pull back and look at the thing overall, and then I go into the depth again later.

mhoc

In Tesco I found a lady sampling the honest kids which my store def did not have last week . so I got the packs for shopimmums.

In the excitement of getting them I forgot totally about the rest of the list but I did get 3 crisps - salt and vinegar and barbecue.
At the till the lad just wouldnt scan them, said I hadn't bought them so I said I was going to CS who had no issues taking them - I never argue with the till persons, its always easier to just go to CS

So I still have to go tommorow again to use my last MOCs and get the cashback items

mhoc

Does everyone know that on Marks sparks there are food conditional spend offers again which need activating?
I always get spend £15 and get £2 off.
OH gets spend £10 get £2 off - third time he has had this.
We get two of the traditional meals deals -chicken pie, chicken and bacon in sauce, 2 packs of rosemary potatoes (which I divide into four and freeze) and 2 lattice apple and blackberry pies (again to freeze) - there is also a peach roulade but our store never has this
Possibly not the best value but it would still cost more than £10 to make all of this from scratch plus the time involved
We almost never get yellow labels so this is as good as it gets.

And I use one of my credit notes

Tinyshoes

I snoozed and losed today.

All the cheap tuna was gone, end of aisle too, not surprising as both places marked up £1.13.

There was 3 pack in spring water on the shelf and the 3 plus 1 free on end of aisle so I got them both scanned but both £3.50.

I shouldn't have stayed so long in my dressing gown today but I was soooo cosy.