Housing Benefit self employed earnings disregards

I receive a disregard of £37.10 on my self-employed earnings for HB purposes at present. I understand this is broken down into two components: £20 and £17.10.

I am wondering if anyone can explain what triggers the two components, especially the £17.10.

I get PIP at the Enhcanced Rate and thus Severe Disability Premium for HB and Tax Credit purposes.

I work 30 hours per week and would like to know if I would still get a 337.10 disregard if I cut my hours to 16 per week, as I am contemplating.
So my question is really: do I get the extra £17.10 weekly disregard off the back of disability, or because of the number of hours being 30, as opposed to 16.

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  • tboo
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    Enigmaman wrote: »
    I receive a disregard of £37.10 on my self-employed earnings for HB purposes at present. I understand this is broken down into two components: £20 and £17.10.

    I am wondering if anyone can explain what triggers the two components, especially the £17.10.

    I get PIP at the Enhcanced Rate and thus Severe Disability Premium for HB and Tax Credit purposes.

    I work 30 hours per week and would like to know if I would still get a 337.10 disregard if I cut my hours to 16 per week, as I am contemplating.
    So my question is really: do I get the extra £17.10 weekly disregard off the back of disability, or because of the number of hours being 30, as opposed to 16.


    The £20 is taken off your wages because you are a diabled worker otherwise it would be £5

    The £17.50 is an additional earnings disegard because you work 30 hours - you would lose this if you cut hours down to 16
    link
    link for the 16 hrs - W2.135 and W2 136 and W2.137
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  • Enigmaman
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    Thanks, very useful indeed.The language in the patas you cite is a bit vague.

    It talks about "additional earnings disregard" but mentions no figures, so it seems to me unclear from the text whether the additional bit applies from getting from £5>£20 for being disabled, or the extra £17.10.

    But you seem pretty definite in your above post.

    "
    Additional earnings disregard (formerly known as 30 hour earnings
    disregard)

    W2.135 The additional earnings disregard in HB/CTB can be applied if the claimant, or their partner
    • is working for 16 or more hours per week
    • would be, or are entitled to, WTC, and
    • fall within one of the categories of people listed below
    W2.136 The following people can have the additional earnings disregard applied to their earnings
    • lone parents
    • couples with children
    • disabled people*
    • certain people aged 50 or over*
    * If the claimant is part of a couple, the person who is disabled/over 50 must be the person
    working 16 or more hours per week.
    "
  • tboo
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    The 1st link - £5 to £25 is no matter what - you get it taken off if you work.

    The 2nd link is for the explanation for the additional earnings of £17.10 (sorry I put 17.50) as the 1st link doesn't explain - this is extra and certain conditions need to be in place before it can be given
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  • Enigmaman
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    Thanks for the clarification.

    My reading is that the HB manual in the second link is a bit vague and it sounds like disability can get you the £17.10.

    That's just my take though and you sound like you have a lot of expereeince here. Either way, I am going to get my local council to clarify before I cut my hours - which may be in April when the new tax year starts.
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