Definition of time education for dental treatment?

Darksparkle

poppy12345 wrote: »

Ok i just found it in the link i posted. IF the treatment starts before their 18th birthday it comes under the NHS. If it's after then it doesn't. Scroll down to part 16 of that link.

Page 16 refers to a young person not in FTE.

The uni can confirm if the course is full time.

UKSBD

poppy12345 wrote: »

Not according to this link here. If the person is not a dependant then they don't qualify for free dental treatment. Same as free prescriptions (unless they live in Wales for this)
https://www.nhs.uk/Healthcosts/Documents/DH_4138953%5B1%5D.pdf

Which page/section does it say that?

UKSBD

If you're referring to where it say


"You are not considered to be receiving full-time education once you have finished your A Levels (or equivalent) as you will have come off a school or college register and have not actually started at college/university."


Others have said that this refers to the period when someone leaves school/college but before they actually start college/university,


As I said, I keep seeing contradicting info but can't find a definitive answer anywhere

poppy12345

Darksparkle wrote: »

Page 16 refers to a young person not in FTE.

Sorry my mistake.

My thoughts are that because it's advanced education and no child benefit is being recieved the person wouldn't qualify. OP i can only advice to speak to the college/uni. They may know, as they've most liekly come accross this many times before. Better to be safe than sorry.

Spendless

I think poppy is highly likely to be correct.

The link says

aged under 18, or under 19 and in qualifying full-time education

I suspect the 'qualifying' is highly significant here.

An 18yo on a further education course (eg A levels) would be exempt.

An 18yo on a higher education eg Uni course would pay.

Thanks for the tip off though, I've a 17yo, will make sure he gets a dental appointment before he finishes his college course.

poppy12345

Yes it makes perfect sense. Those in full time non advanced education are still non dependants and would qualify. Those in advanced eduction are no longer dependent. Therefore they wouldn't qualify.

Ames

Would they qualify under the low income scheme? I think the form's a HC1 and you can download it or get it from some dentists, pharmacies or opticians.

Darksparkle

This is being made out to be much more complicated than it is. Non-advanced/advances education is irrelevant here, that’s for tax credits and child benefit.

For dental treatment it’s simply full time education. Page 15 clearly defines this “Full-time education means you must be receiving full-time instruction from a recognised educational establishment, such as a school, college or university.”

UKSBD

Darksparkle wrote: »

This is being made out to be much more complicated than it is. Non-advanced/advances education is irrelevant here, that’s for tax credits and child benefit.

For dental treatment it’s simply full time education. Page 15 clearly defines this “Full-time education means you must be receiving full-time instruction from a recognised educational establishment, such as a school, college or university.”

The problem is there is this section in the guidelines;


"You are not considered to be receiving full-time education once you have finished your A Levels (or equivalent) as you will have come off a school or college register and have not actually started at college/university."


(This doesn't appear on the forms or the briefer guidelines.)


Do you interpret that as once you finish A levels you have finished full time education?


or


Does it mean, You are not considered to be in full time education in the period between finishing A levels and starting University?


Does anyone know where the legislation is rather than the guidelines, as the guidelines appear to be open to different peoples interpretations of them.

UKSBD

For those interested.


It comes under the National Health Service Act


Relevant sections;


177 Exemptions from dental charging




(1) No charge may be made under regulations under section 176(1) in respect of a relevant dental service provided for any person who at the prescribed time—


(b) was under 19 and receiving qualifying full-time education,




(6) In subsection (1)(b) “qualifying full-time education” means full-time instruction at a recognised educational establishment or by other means accepted as comparable by the Secretary of State.


(7) For the purposes of subsection (6)—


(a) “recognised educational establishment” means an establishment recognised by the Secretary of State as being, or as comparable to, a school, college or university, and


(b) regulations may prescribe the circumstances in which a person must, or must not, be treated as receiving full-time instruction.


Source: https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2006/41/section/177#reference-key-86aa3c382f6c4781adf4abd0ecd456a8