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I am employed as a plumber but it's all my own tools and van even buy my own gas to work with. So really I'm self employed with holiday pay. I work on few diffrent site but sometimes I work on one for a year! So my van has broken down and given up totally and have been thinking there must be a better way to get a newish van. Has anyone been employed and self employed at the same time! Would that allow me to claim for all the things or because I would not earn much if anything as self employed that would not really work the boss does give me £100 a month toward fuel which some times covers it but most the time nowhere near any one in similar situation

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  • 00ec25
    00ec25 Posts: 9,123 Forumite
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    edited 27 October 2017 at 10:39AM
    you are not "really self employed", you are an employee where your employer does not (apparently) reimburse you for some expenses incurred in carrying out the duties of your employment, except for "£100 per month" towards fuel.

    Note that if you said that to HMRC both you and your employer would be landed with a tax bill as your employer cannot give you a round sum allowance towards "fuel" without you submitting some form of expense claim listing the business mileage you did to support such an amount.

    If the business mileage you did actually totals more than £100 when calculated using the official mileage rate (45p per mile) then no tax is due, if it doesn't you should be taxed on the excess payment you have received.

    If your business mileage at 45p per miles comes to more than the £100 you get in cash, you (as an employee) are entitled to make a tax claim to HMRC. You can also claim for the gas and tools you pay for which your employer does not reimburse you for having purchased.
    read this link https://www.gov.uk/tax-relief-for-employees

    whether you genuinely undertake self employed work with your own clients who you have a direct contract with and who you invoice in your own name will be a matter of fact. If you do, then it will be fact that you have both an employee job and a self employed business at the same time. Such a situation is perfectly legal, but given the facts you list, it does not apply to you so no you cannot claim the costs of a van when you are in fact an employee
  • Pennywise
    Pennywise Posts: 13,468 Forumite
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    Anyway, you can only claim proportional costs of your van for your s/e work. So if you drove 1,000 miles for self employment, 1,000 for other private, and 8,000 for your employment, you'd only be able to claim 1/10th of your van costs, i.e. 1,000 out of the total 10,000. So doing "a bit" of s/e work wouldn't really achieve anything - it never makes you eligible to claim all your costs - it's got to be proportional.
  • chrismac1
    chrismac1 Posts: 2,585 Forumite
    It sounds like your employer has not heard of the likes of Pimlico Plumbers where many of their plumbers make around £100k per year. But you have now!
    Hideous Muddles from Right Charlies
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