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Boundary issue
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moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »Which is all well and good - until one gets one of "those" neighbours moving in next door, making a grab for the land and being determined to keep it.
As new owner of house concerned - I'd probably rather like to easily be able to put my own large plants in pots on that gravel.
The buyer has told us that they are not bothered about owning the land. If someone made a "grab" for it they would presumably then say "it's yours, as long as you pay the costs of changing the plans."0 -
moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »As it stands at present - then, if I were a potential buyer of your house, I'd be feeling unsure about whether that bit of my land definitely was my land and the neighbour definitely was going to keep their hands off it. I would be anticipating a try-on neighbour in that house making a bid for it by putting several large plant pots on my gravel with plants in. I've seen people do that sort of thing.
This means that one's own grass goes right up to the neighbour's drive, so they step on it, open car doors over it etc. So far as I know, there has been no issue with this, and when I rented there, I had no problem deducing which bit of grass I should cut and which I should leave.
Considering that all the houses there are now worth in excess of £1/2m and there are literally dozens of them like that, selling very readily, it can't be much of a problem to many people, except those like yourself and, apparently, the OP's buyer's solicitor. It must be a very common scenario in housing estates of that period.0 -
umm....... because it's unnecessary and going to cost money and the solicitor has got it wrong and is now being a !!!!!.
The erection of a piece of chain, fence, wall or other has absolutely no bearing on the actual location of the boundary.
If on the title plan for each property there is no clear dogleg in the boundary from the alleyway where the bins are stored then there is no issue.
The edging stones of the neighbours driveway are the best indicator of the location of the boundary. Even if we were to put a small fence up we would also have to take up these edging stones first to allow the fence to sit on the actual boundary.
The title plan shows a straight line that tracks the line of the higher garden wall further back. There is no dog leg on the plan.0 -
That little 'orphan' strip would worry me too.
Like Money, I have been the victim of a bullying, slightly unhinged neighbour who kicked off a boundary dispute that cost us very dearly indeed in terms of money, stress, sleepless nights and fear of what the daft old beggar would inflict upon us next.
Perhaps it's experience that makes some people want the matter resolved while others can't see that there is an issue in the first place.0 -
I don’t get why your neighbour needs that strip to be able to open their car door, their car is parked further back, right next to the higher wall and they obviously have enough room there to get in and out of the car. T really does seem strange that the wall was ever built this way.
As another possible, and cheaper option. Could you lay a few slabs there and use it as a sectioned off bin store? Move your wheelie bins from in front of the garage and side of your house and park them on that strip of land. It would give your buyer more usable space on the drive/side of the house and give a “reason” for the wall being where it is.0 -
So the neighbours agree it's your land but want to use it and presumably have been using it for some time? If buying I would want to know have they acquired any rights over the bit they use regularly to get in the car? It does sound messy if you can't put a boundary up to clarify without upsetting the neighbours. What does your solicitor have to say about it?
Thousands of people have similar setups all over the country.
Cars have got bigger, drives that were built 50 years ago haven't. Loads of people have to step onto their neighbours land to get in and out of their cars, I'm one of them, so are my next door neighbours, so are most of the people on my street.
I think its a bit of a mountain out of a molehill. A row of decorative stones or a line of paving slabs would be a clear physical indicator of the boundary without causing any problems to anybody.
OP hopefully you find some buyers with a bit of common sense this time, good luck.0 -
paddy's_mum wrote: »That little 'orphan' strip would worry me too.
Like Money, I have been the victim of a bullying, slightly unhinged neighbour who kicked off a boundary dispute that cost us very dearly indeed in terms of money, stress, sleepless nights and fear of what the daft old beggar would inflict upon us next.
Perhaps it's experience that makes some people want the matter resolved while others can't see that there is an issue in the first place.
Odd, aggressive neighbours are randomly distributed and difficult to insure against. These people will find something else to annoy one with if the title plans are clear!0 -
Regulator101 wrote: »To be clear, we have offered to take the wall down and pay for it. When the neighbour said that they would prefer that the wall was not rebuilt on the boundary we decided not to insist on any form of physical boundary being put in place. The last thing that we want to do is to CAUSE a dispute that we've managed to avoid for 17 years. We have provided the neighbour with a draft boundary agreement which seeks to clarify the situation. We are yet to hear back from them. The neighbour is as much at a loss as to why this has arisen as we are.
So in your buyers defense it seems if they want a wall along their rightful boundary this will upset your neighbour, they wont want any disputes to arise either as at some point they will need to sell the house.
Better a dispute to happen with your so they can sell without having to declare one.
Having said that I really don't see the need for a wall on that section, just to have it taken down would resolve everything.0 -
A couple more photos attached taken this morning that has already seen 2 further viewings. We’ve been completely transparent about what’s going on. One of the couples viewing didn’t see the problem at all. The other has asked that we formalise an agreement with the neighbour about the location of the boundary and made a matched offer. Feeling a bit happier now.
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iammumtoone wrote: »Better a dispute to happen with your so they can sell without having to declare one.
It wouldn't really be our dispute though since the neighbours are already well aware of what has arisen and that it's not us wanting the wall to be moved. It creates a problem for the buyer when they move in. That helps nobody.0
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