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Same as this poster, how odd, almost as if CEL are sitting on some post for a week:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/73310108#Comment_73310108PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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Is it worth adding anything about this to my defence or would it not make much of a difference?0
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Technically they are out of time.
Another concurrent CEL thread has a specimen letter on it for you to send the solicitors - C-M commented on it last so search her posts. I think it was last night but it may have been this morning. Did you keep the envelope it came in? The other poster did and can show it was date stamped almost 2 weeks after the date on the letter. I think you should add to the letter to make an issue of the fact that the PoC were clearly sent out much later than they (and the covering letter) was dated, ask for the Certificate of Service that has to be filed at court with separate PoC and if you have the envelope enclose a copy and point out the date stamp on it. Ask them why they have filed late, point out that they have no leave to do so and cannot file late PoC without such leave, and accordingly they must apply for relief from sanctions under CPR 3.9. Write to the court enclosing a copy of that letter.
Jonersh has recently commented on this, and I have and CM has. There are specimen letters for you to copy and paste. You need to find all those CEL threads from the last few days and keep on top of them because we are giving useful advice on them which applies to you as well. There is a facility to subscribe to threads: subscribe to these other ones and read them regularly. We just can't repeat the same advice on every CEL thread as there are so many at the moment which are almost identical - I for one can't remember which ones I've commented on and I just don't have the capacity to be going back and forth to check.Although a practising Solicitor, my posts here are NOT legal advice, but are personal opinion based on limited facts provided anonymously by forum users. I accept no liability for the accuracy of any such posts and users are advised that, if they wish to obtain formal legal advice specific to their case, they must seek instruct and pay a solicitor.0 -
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/73322551#Comment_73322551
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5710008
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5731486
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/73313029#Comment_73313029Although a practising Solicitor, my posts here are NOT legal advice, but are personal opinion based on limited facts provided anonymously by forum users. I accept no liability for the accuracy of any such posts and users are advised that, if they wish to obtain formal legal advice specific to their case, they must seek instruct and pay a solicitor.0 -
If the POC were backdated and you kept the envelope that proved they were not posted when dated, PLEASE NOW forward the complaint you made to the CCBC, to another email address.
We need LOTS of these to fly into a specific inbox now:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/73400735#Comment_73400735
Once that has been done, please confirm. We need to bombard the CCBC (specifically to Amanda Beck who is aware of this scam) with evidence about CEL.
Do this - even if you've already emailed a complaint - PLEASE forward it now!PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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