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SMETS2 Meters - Delayed?

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  • Hengus wrote: »
    The SSE quote came from Utility Week not The Daily Telegraph. The Telegraph and Utility Week reports were based on what is published on the BEIS website.
    I was referring to the Telegraphs quite disgusting story they ran with glee earlier this year maintaining that smart meters were defrauding many customers by running fast and adding thousands of kwh.
    It transpired that it was a batch of faulty IHDs, which the Telegraph referred to as "smart meters " which were faulty.Big deal ! a £3 electronic piece of rubbish, made in China item not worth wasting socket space on.
    SSE did point this major lie out the next day but failed to taking legal action the article deserved.
    That same week on my job meter reading I noticed that the story had travelled around and many customers I visited were refusing smart meters just because of a fake story by the Telegraph that it was going to inflate their bills. SSE should have sued the Telegraph because even now they are still at it with straight lies.It suits many people on here tho with their anti smart crusade and they continue plugging it.
    Half the time I go to check a smart meter the occupiers point to the £3 gizmo on the kitchen worktop and show me what they think is a smart meter. The same idiotic people have no idea how to read a utility bill, nor what a kwh represents, like the Telegraph reporter.
  • Michaelw
    Michaelw Posts: 296 Forumite
    There is more on the tecnical specification here.Its even worse for pay as you go users if the meter goes down for whatver reason.

    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/68898/smart_meters_equipment_technical_spec_version_2.pdf
  • Terry98
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    Hengus wrote: »
    . Eighteen months ago, GCHQ had to step in and tell industry that they needed to up their game when it came to cyber security.

    Was this a general slap on the hand or was it to appease those people who already have smart meters and are worried they are about to be taken over by aliens?
  • Michaelw
    Michaelw Posts: 296 Forumite
    Comming back to this again.

    British Gas to launch the first of a new standard in smart technology. The first of the new model UK smart meters is now installed and live in a British Gas customer's home.

    The first operational SMETS2 meter, installed in August at a semi-detached home in Surbiton, will be part of extensive consumer testing to inform the wider national roll-out of the meters from 2018.

    http://www.powerengineeringint.com/articles/2017/10/landis-gyr-and-british-gas-achieve-next-generation-uk-smart-meter-milestone.html

    However it appears that the the current British Gas G370 meter which they have been installing is complient with SMETS2 with an over the air upgrade.

    https://www.landisgyr.co.uk/product/g370-zigbee-smart-ultrasonic-gas-meter/

    Is this a new meter type or a software trial upgrade to existing models to the new system?
  • System
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    Terry98 wrote: »
    Was this a general slap on the hand or was it to appease those people who already have smart meters and are worried they are about to be taken over by aliens?

    This just about sums up the problem:

    http://digpath.co.uk/gchq-and-the-smart-meter-fiasco/

    Those in charge came up with the bright idea of making things simple by using one encryption key. Its a bit like every wifi router in your street having the same password. If a third-party is able to disconnect a number of smart meters at the same then it is not only disruptive for consumers but large power imbalances can cause serious long-term damage to the Grid infrastructure. The big mistake was allowing suppliers to get their way with the need for remote disconnection which lawyers say will never happen.
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  • Terry98
    Terry98 Posts: 1,155 Forumite
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    Thanks for the link.

    Interesting that......
    'Had the GCHQ not intervened, then tens of millions of homes would immediately have been at risk, due to nothing more than incompetence on behalf of their energy supplier.'
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