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Hello. I reach state pension age in 3 years aged 66. I have just left my employed work with approximately £9k of earnings for this tax year. I will be going self employed from November and expect to only earn approx £2k before April 2018. I need 3 full years to qualify for the new full SP. Have I paid enough NI this year for this to qualify or will I need to pay Class 2 re s/employment as well?.

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  • Kernel_Sanders
    Kernel_Sanders Posts: 3,617 Forumite
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    edited 11 October 2017 at 10:52PM
    Good luck with understanding the Govt.pdf to which Xylo links. In 3b, it states:

    We will use the qualifying years on your National Insurance record as at 5 April 2016
    to work out your ‘starting amount’.


    They then contradict this by stating that years after that date are also used to work out this starting rate!:

    Each ‘qualifying year’ you add to your National Insurance record after 5 April 2016 will add a certain amount (about £4.55 a week, this is £159.55 divided by 35**) to your ‘starting amount’,
  • p00hsticks
    p00hsticks Posts: 14,454 Forumite
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    They then contradict this by stating that years after that date are also used to work out this starting rate!:

    I don't see a contradiction. Years before April 2016 are used to calculate the starting amount as at that date, years after then add to that amount.
  • marlot
    marlot Posts: 4,967 Forumite
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    Kesi wrote: »
    Hello. I reach state pension age in 3 years aged 66. I have just left my employed work with approximately £9k of earnings for this tax year. I will be going self employed from November and expect to only earn approx £2k before April 2018. I need 3 full years to qualify for the new full SP. Have I paid enough NI this year for this to qualify or will I need to pay Class 2 re s/employment as well?.
    When I log in and view my pension entitlement, it shows this year as already completed. If you log in, you'll probably find you are fine too.
  • Kesi
    Kesi Posts: 30 Forumite
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    edited 12 October 2017 at 6:38AM
    Yes Thank you. The part that confuses me is for the 17-18 tax year. Will I have paid enough NI on my employed earnings this year to qualify for a full year (which I need as I was contacted out) or will I need to pay class 2 on my self employment income as it will be only about £2k this tax year....
    .Edit. Oh now I realise that I will have to pay class 2 to go towards a contributing year from Xylophone's link. And hopefully it will tell me how much I will need to top this year up on my tax account when it's updated in the future.
    So best to register as self employed now and start paying class 2 even though I won't be paid anything until November (contractor)?.
  • xylophone
    xylophone Posts: 45,628 Forumite
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    Link in post 2

    What is a ‘qualifying year’?
    You can build a qualifying year for State Pension purposes if your earnings in a
    single job are at or above 52 times the Lower Earnings Limit (£5,876 in 2017/18).


    See also

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5433291

    Have you checked your situation? See post 5 above.


    https://www.gov.uk/personal-tax-account

    https://www.litrg.org.uk/tax-guides/tax-basics/what-national-insurance#toc-how-do-i-check-my-national-insurance-contributions-record-
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