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Indigo penalty notice train station

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  • Thanks for the wonderful advice everyone.
    Just sent off the appeal, in the name box just used keeper of vehicle.
    Will update when I hear something.
  • Hi All,
    Never received any reply to the appeal apart from a few requests for the name of the driver of the vehicle by email. They claimed these were needed for data protection! I made it very clear that they had the name of the keeper of the vehicle and thats all they were getting.
    Today my Mum received a letter from a debt collection agency, ZZPS, should anything be done about this or should it be ignored?
    Thanks, Ed
  • beamerguy
    beamerguy Posts: 17,587 Forumite
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    edited 16 December 2017 at 11:50AM
    ed_wood wrote: »
    Hi All,
    Never received any reply to the appeal apart from a few requests for the name of the driver of the vehicle by email. They claimed these were needed for data protection! I made it very clear that they had the name of the keeper of the vehicle and thats all they were getting.
    Today my Mum received a letter from a debt collection agency, ZZPS, should anything be done about this or should it be ignored?
    Thanks, Ed

    The infamous ZZPS :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

    Just drongo chancers to ignore

    POWERLESS TIMEWASTERS

    Tell your mum to take the advice of the media
    NEVER CONTACT SCAMMERS
  • ed_wood
    ed_wood Posts: 43 Forumite
    Received another letter from ZZps on Saturday:

    "The penalty is an offer for you to make payment of an alternative charge under railway byelaws. If the the penalty is not paid, then our client is entitled to commence a private criminal prosecution against you for your breach of railway byelaw 14. This could result in you being fined up to £1000 (level 3 on the standard scale, set out in section 37 of the criminal justice act 1982).
    By Breaching railway byelaw 14, you have committed an offence. The penalty has been issued under section 219 of the transport act 2000 as amended under the railway act 2005
    our next action is to pass this account to the law firm QDR solicitors ltd. We would prefer to get to the bottom of this with you, without the need to use lawyers. However, we are duty bound to advise you that if this does get passed to solicitors, the balance owing will be increased by a further £36.
    The criminal prosecution process is not simple; if you need debt advice, places where this can be sought are detailed on the reverse of this letter"

    What an extraordinarily passive aggressive threatening letter!
    Is there any point replying to this letter and if so what should I write?

    Thanks people and happy new year.
    Edward
  • pappa_golf
    pappa_golf Posts: 8,895 Forumite
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    ZZPS client is indigo , indigo cannot start a court case in magistrates court , only the TOC can do that

    the TOC do not use QDR solisitors

    await letter from TOC

    there is a slight problem , indigo are not allowed to pass any information gathered from the DVLA to the TOC
    Save a Rachael

    buy a share in crapita
  • nosferatu1001
    nosferatu1001 Posts: 12,961 Forumite
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    Indeed, what a load of rubbish from zzps there.

    If the driver wasn’t identified then nomoffence can be committed by the keeper. That’s just an out and out lie.
  • ed_wood wrote: »
    If the the penalty is not paid, then our client is entitled to commence a private criminal prosecution against you for your breach of railway byelaw 14.
    ...
    By Breaching railway byelaw 14, you have committed an offence.
    What's the point of a criminal prosecution in a court of law. Sounds like they have decided the offence has been committed, which is not in their gift to decide. They would appear to have prejudiced any potential court case here.
  • beamerguy
    beamerguy Posts: 17,587 Forumite
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    edited 1 January 2018 at 12:34PM
    You can always spot a scammer when they talk
    rubbish and say things like .....

    "We would prefer to get to the bottom of this with you, without the need to use lawyers"

    Sort of thing a child would say ..... that's the ZZPS way

    Thought that the pervy thing was a BPA staff privilege

    Contact Trading Standards with a complaint about the
    ZZPS letter as it is menacing and they are attempting
    to extort money from you

    Take notice of pappa-golf
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    our client is entitled to commence a private criminal prosecution against you for your breach of railway byelaw 14.

    They seem to be digging themselves into a hole here. A private criminal prosecution, even if it was allowed, would not come cheap, especially if OP hired a QC and the PPC lost.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • pappa_golf
    pappa_golf Posts: 8,895 Forumite
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    a private criminal prosecution? , for what?? indigo have not suffered any loses
    Save a Rachael

    buy a share in crapita
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