Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Zero_Gravitas

From the Telegraph - a paper not particularly noted for its remainer sympathies:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/06/23/eu-diplomats-shocked-boriss-four-letter-reply-business-concerns/

More proof that those driving towards a hard brexit are truly only in it for themselves.

This comes on the back of Rees-Mogg!!!8217;s investment company setting up an operation in Dublin because they are worried about the negative effects of brexit on the U.K.

Make no mistake, when these people talk about the brexit dividend, they are thinking purely in terms of their own bank balances...

gfplux

kabayiri wrote: »

London jobs then....

London will recover I reckon.

Tell me why you think people hundreds of miles away should care?

Now that is an interesting question.

Perhaps it say a lot about you.

gfplux

Apparently Brexit is a mess because of remainers,

Brexit was always going to be bad but May and her squabbling cabinet have created an almighty mess.

Two years after the referendum no one can be happy with this.

Lornapink

Ha ha, look at the Peoples Vote march, yet again overwhelmingly of the middle class, white very nerdy persuasion, I hope there's a Waitrose enroute. Old bats in straw boaters, most of the adults middle aged or older, dragging their poor grand children along. I mean who the heck wears a straw boater, let alone with chintzy ribbons in them! Sort of a badge of drippyness and elitism.


REMEMBER, LEAVERS WIN EITHER WAY;
If Brexit gets binned, millions of disgruntled Tories, Labour & Kippers will come together in the sort of mass populist movement seen across Europe (even in Sweden the top polling party is their UKIP). From Austria to Italy, Hungary to Germany, populism is usurping the cretinous centrist class, it staggers me how Remaoners seem so out of touch with the mood.

This new Trumpian movement would overwhelm denuded Tory and Labour party's.

Lornapink

gfplux wrote: »

Two years after the referendum no one can be happy with this.

What does Remain mean? Can you give me the precise details to include what the EU will demand in terms of recent additional centralisation and loss of sovereign competencies?


How would Remain answer this most vital of questions in a 2nd vote?

gfplux

Lornapink wrote: »

Ha ha, look at the Peoples Vote march, yet again overwhelmingly of the middle class, white very nerdy persuasion, I hope there's a Waitrose enroute. Old bats in straw boaters, most of the adults middle aged or older, dragging their poor grand children along. I mean who the heck wears a straw boater, let alone with chintzy ribbons in them! Sort of a badge of drippyness and elitism.


REMEMBER, LEAVERS WIN EITHER WAY;
If Brexit gets binned, millions of disgruntled Tories, Labour & Kippers will come together in the sort of mass populist movement seen across Europe (even in Sweden the top polling party is their UKIP). From Austria to Italy, Hungary to Germany, populism is usurping the cretinous centrist class, it staggers me how Remaoners seem so out of touch with the mood.

This new Trumpian movement would overwhelm denuded Tory and Labour party's.

Sorry to see you laughing at the marchers.

When did you last go on a protest march. If you ever did what did you wear as that seems important to you.

gfplux

Lornapink wrote: »

What does Remain mean? Can you give me the precise details to include what the EU will demand in terms of recent additional centralisation and loss of sovereign competencies?


How would Remain answer this most vital of questions in a 2nd vote?

We do not have to defend Remain.

Have you forgotten Brexit is the mess.

If there is to be a second vote I leave that to others to decide on the question.

Moby

Its an amazing day in London, great weather and positive vibrant people filled with hope not hate. Estimates put the March at 100k.

cogito

Zero_Gravitas wrote: »

From the Telegraph - a paper not particularly noted for its remainer sympathies:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/06/23/eu-diplomats-shocked-boriss-four-letter-reply-business-concerns/

Hang on a minute. Two EU diplomats wanting to remain anonymous say this? These people have form for this kind of thing.

Filo25

Lornapink wrote: »

Ha ha, look at the Peoples Vote march, yet again overwhelmingly of the middle class, white very nerdy persuasion, I hope there's a Waitrose enroute. Old bats in straw boaters, most of the adults middle aged or older, dragging their poor grand children along. I mean who the heck wears a straw boater, let alone with chintzy ribbons in them! Sort of a badge of drippyness and elitism.


REMEMBER, LEAVERS WIN EITHER WAY;
If Brexit gets binned, millions of disgruntled Tories, Labour & Kippers will come together in the sort of mass populist movement seen across Europe (even in Sweden the top polling party is their UKIP). From Austria to Italy, Hungary to Germany, populism is usurping the cretinous centrist class, it staggers me how Remaoners seem so out of touch with the mood.

This new Trumpian movement would overwhelm denuded Tory and Labour party's.

Whereas if we do go ahead with a Hard Brexit, what do you think disillusioned Remainers are going to do, just sit there and say "ah well let's keep voting for the same idiots who brought us this mess?"

The whole thing is a shambles and I doubt anyone is going to be too happy with the final outcome of negotiations, Remainers will clearly be annoyed but so will many leavers who were promised so much more than they are likely to get, you already see the positioning of this from the likes of Farage that a great Brexit would have been achievable if only someone else was in charge, the scapegoating never stops.....