Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

HAMISH_MCTAVISH

Tromking wrote: »

Just merely pointing out that a Scots perceptions re. the ‘small crowded island’ theory maybe skewed by personal experience or the lack of.

I worked across the midlands and south east from monday to friday every week for almost 2 years.

I'm well aware of how crowded it seems to be from the ground and how people's perceptions of it are - but that's a very different thing to the reality that it is indeed almost completely empty.

As anyone can see for themselves if they just take a short flight over it...

ukcarper

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

That link overstates it because up to 50% of the land it designates as 'urban' is actually greenspace.

Two other research reports give similar findings....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41901297

Yes 1.4% is actual buildings the 5.9% is more accurate because it includes roads pavements etc.

Arklight

gfplux wrote: »

More evidence you are not an international salesman.

The LDC countrys ONLY exported 36 million, ha ha ha, even the number is wrong as well as the thought process.

Have you heard the phrase, you can lead the horse to water........

Just like Britains exports, Britain has to sell them, other countrys can choose not to buy. Too many Brexiter, if not all think that Britains exports have been held back because of the EU.

China'a largest trading partner in Europe is Germany. Germany also sells twice what the UK does to India.

I have yet to see any explanation for this from Brexiters.

Germany sells more than we do because they make things that India and China want to buy. The UK economy is heavily weighted towards financial services, but these two economies are closed shops for these. What do Brexiters think we are going to sell that we can't already?

Tromking

HAMISH_MCTAVISH wrote: »

I worked across the midlands and south east from monday to friday every week for almost 2 years.

I'm well aware of how crowded it seems to be from the ground and how people's perceptions of it are - but that's a very different thing to the reality that it is indeed almost completely empty.

As anyone can see for themselves if they just take a short flight over it...

You never tested your theory and took the plunge and moved home I take it?
I wonder what factors where at play when you decided not to move England.

Tromking

Arklight wrote: »

China'a largest trading partner in Europe is Germany. Germany also sells twice what the UK does to India.

I have yet to see any explanation for this from Brexiters.

Germany taking advantage of an undervalued currency at the expense of other Eurozone countries perhaps?
Good on the Germans though, narrow national interest should always trump the collective.

Enterprise_1701C

Tromking wrote: »

Germany taking advantage of an undervalued currency at the expense of other Eurozone countries perhaps?
Good on the Germans though, narrow national interest should always trump the collective.

After all, the eu is simply the Germanifcation of Europe, better people than me believe that the eu is simply Germany invading Europe through the back door.

LHW99

Which is nice and all but it doesn't even begin to answer the question.

What percentage of EU migrants claim in work benefits?

What percentage of EU migrants claim out of work benefits?

Various sources indicate that statistics aren't properly broken down to analyse this, however, here's a 356 page read, with some nice graphs around the mid-200's that may be interesting.
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/333083/MAC-Migrants_in_low-skilled_work__Full_report_2014.pdf#page=273

mayonnaise

Tromking wrote: »

I!!!8217;m not sure a Scot declaring how empty the UK is will go done to well with those in other parts of the UK.

Not sure how living the public servant life in Devon makes you the expert?
Anyway, as always, Hamish is correct.
Large swathes of the South East (even within the M25) are indeed empty. And I'm not talking greenbelt land.
Perceptions of congestion are fed by bad town/city planning, awful traffic management, etc....not overpopulation.

ukcarper

mayonnaise wrote: »

Not sure how living the public servant life in Devon makes you the expert?
Anyway, as always, Hamish is correct.
Large swathes of the South East (even within the M25) are indeed empty. And I'm not talking greenbelt land.
Perceptions of congestion are fed by bad town/city planning, awful traffic management, etc....not overpopulation.

Care to point some out inside M25.

kabayiri

Herzlos wrote: »

You don't even need a plane. Satellite images from google maps of London show a lot of greenery:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/London/@51.5068332,-0.1324099,17433m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x47d8a00baf21de75:0x52963a5addd52a99!8m2!3d51.5073509!4d-0.1277583

And once you zoom out from London it's almost entirely green.

Quite a lot of it is national parks and farmland though, so I'm not proposing we concrete it all over, but there's no denying that habitation only takes up a tiny proportion of the landmass.

You can calculate the theoretical upper data limit of a network quite easily.

When you put real world data traffic on it, you don't reach anywhere near these theoretical figures.

Why? Because you encounter specific bottlenecks, and it is these bottlenecks which limit capacity.

It's the same with the superficial assessment of land. If you don't have network grid capacity for power; water supply and treatment; transport infrastructure; your ability to use this resource is constrained.

I believe there is plenty of land across the UK, but it would involve distributing population more evenly. If you moved the seat of government to Leeds, a whole bunch of jobs would follow.

What we have is ever increasing centralization on key hotspots.