Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

Herzlos

wunferall wrote: »

Because cars can jump walls and gates, paddle across rocky streams and drive over hilly, muddy fields of course. :wall:

I'm pretty sure he means cars kill more foxes by accident than fox hunts kill on purpose.

System

MobileSaver wrote: »

"Painkiller"'s method worked great for me!

Fix MSE awful narrow forum site width

Phew, Thanks!

kabayiri

Herzlos wrote: »

I don't agree with horse or dog racing, or people ownig pets who can't look after them. I don't view halal as unnecessarily cruel.
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Why?

All animal slaughter is obviously cruel to the animal being slaughtered.

So while we still choose to eat meat, it comes down to what is 'necessary' when slaughtering the animal.

So explain why the process of slaughtering an animal to the requirements of halal is necessary. It isn't.

Herzlos

kabayiri wrote: »

Why?

All animal slaughter is obviously cruel to the animal being slaughtered.

So while we still choose to eat meat, it comes down to what is 'necessary' when slaughtering the animal.

So explain why the process of slaughtering an animal to the requirements of halal is necessary. It isn't.

Slaughtering an animal to any standards is cruel, but necessary so that we can eat (because we're not all going to go vegan or start eating insects). Halal animals are respected, looked after and stop suffering pretty quickly.

I'm sure there will be better ways of do it it than halal or the .uk method, though I'm not sure how practical they are.

kabayiri

Herzlos wrote: »

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I'm sure there will be better ways of do it it than halal or the .uk method, though I'm not sure how practical they are.

One conventional poultry processing plant had a capacity of tens of thousands of birds, yet with only 4 operatives.

I'd class that as very practical personally. Food processing is scaled to industrial levels. Adding in human intervention would increase costs and reduce throughput.

wunferall

Herzlos wrote: »

I'm pretty sure he means cars kill more foxes by accident than fox hunts kill on purpose.

You don't say? And here's me thinking it was just more obfuscatory waffling. After all, this started because of UK proposals to ban the transport of live animals and the usual remainer suspects from there suggesting that the EU's animal welfare is better than that of the UK. It is not, and the usual way remainers try to get around being wrong is to waffle on about other things and hope no-one notices.

gfplux

All sounds good. Brexit and the EU sound much better subjects that the disturbing life of animals life and death.

Herzlos

wunferall wrote: »

You don't say? And here's me thinking it was just more obfuscatory waffling. After all, this started because of UK proposals to ban the transport of live animals and the usual remainer suspects from there suggesting that the EU's animal welfare is better than that of the UK. It is not, and the usual way remainers try to get around being wrong is to waffle on about other things and hope no-one notices.

You're correct on the waffle but not the cause.
We just pointed out the live animal bam was irrelevant and hypocritical virtue signalling. Leavers seem unable to hear any criticism about the Tory party, so even go as far as to claim that fox hunting is the least cruel way to deal with foxes.

I'm quite happy to talk Brexit if you can keep on topic. But I don't think we'll hear much for a while due to these Syrian strikes

iro

Brilliant, Brilliant, Brexit!

Less than 9000 hours to go before 'third country' day!

John Edward, of Open Britain, said: "Our largest ever National Day of Action is all about bringing together the various pro-European groups so that we can speak with one, unified voice, because we know that together we are stronger."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-43756531

Hilarious, less than 20 people:rotfl:

wunferall

Herzlos wrote: »

You're correct on the waffle but not the cause.
We just pointed out the live animal bam was irrelevant and hypocritical virtue signalling. Leavers seem unable to hear any criticism about the Tory party, so even go as far as to claim that fox hunting is the least cruel way to deal with foxes.

I'm quite happy to talk Brexit if you can keep on topic. But I don't think we'll hear much for a while due to these Syrian strikes

Re: the bolded - no you're not. I and others have tried and the one changing topic is most frequently you, which is why many said they would put you on "ignore" not long ago.

As for the rest it is sadly nothing more than the usual drivel, and mostly from people who have little or no experience like the one suggesting we should all go out in our cars and try to run over foxes as that would apparently be less of a "thrill" than hunting! :eek::eek: