Brexit, the economy and house prices part 5

gfplux

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Why drag up a news paper article from last April and it make a point of discussion. Now an outcome has been reached.

Frankly the date of a lie, untruth, misspoke etc does not matter. It is still a lie.
Quittlings seem to be beginning to think that all the lies told by the quitters campaign can now be forgotten.
Those quitters lies have or will be slowly exposed for what they are.

The so called Project fear which was exposed the day after the referendum to be too pessimistic is actually now slowly, slowly, slowly coming to pass.

If the quitters think the remoaners will ever let these Brexit lies pass into history they will be disappointed.

The Curse of Brexit will live with quittlings and Britain for decades to come.

Thrugelmir

ilovehouses wrote: »

To be fair I suppose it might have been his informed view at the time.

With Davis I tend to think he doesn't have the best grip on facts because he's too lazy to go and find them. He's far more interested in what's happening in the Westminster bubble.

Better informed than any of us posting on here. Edited newspaper articles can by their very nature. Give a totally different slant depending on how much of actually was said gets published. Quotes need to be given context and also the actual question was asked.

cogito

mayonnaise wrote: »

From your link:


More Leave lies? Surely not.

Davis was absolutely correct. The agencies weren't being forced to leave. The EU chose to do so which is quite understandable but no one was lying. Except you and gfplux who clearly chose to misinterpret what was actually said.

Thrugelmir

ilovehouses wrote: »

The EU were very clear that the agencies would have to be based in a member state and were well along the road to deciding where they would be located. Against this background Davis still said they didn't have to leave.

He doesn't sound like he was that well informed.

You obviously know the precise detail of the conversations that happened at the time then. The EU is a body with any number of unelected spokes people. In essence no different to the current Government and divergence of views that are held.

mayonnaise

cogito wrote: »

Davis was absolutely correct. The agencies weren't being forced to leave. The EU chose to do so which is quite understandable but no one was lying. Except you and gfplux who clearly chose to misinterpret what was actually said.

Gosh this is boring.
The EU made it crystal clear the agencies would have to move.
Nevertheless, Davis continued to peddle lies.

cogito

Thrugelmir wrote: »

Istanbul 2010? Political posturing.

Of course times have changed since then. With the EU back pedalling on allowing Turkey membership.

Doesn't seem an efficient use of money to fund such an event from Brussels. Why not simply do the same internally within the UK.

And Rejkyavik in 2000. Since then Iceland has back-pedalled by withdrawing its application to join. Very sensible.

cogito

mayonnaise wrote: »

Gosh this is boring.
The EU made it crystal clear the agencies would have to move.
Nevertheless, Davis continued to peddle lies.

English is clearly not your first language.

Thrugelmir

gfplux wrote: »

Frankly the date of a lie, untruth, misspoke etc does not matter. It is still a lie.
Quittlings seem to be beginning to think that all the lies told by the quitters campaign can now be forgotten.
Those quitters lies have or will be slowly exposed for what they are.

The so called Project fear which was exposed the day after the referendum to be too pessimistic is actually now slowly, slowly, slowly coming to pass.

If the quitters think the remoaners will ever let these Brexit lies pass into history they will be disappointed.

The Curse of Brexit will live with quittlings and Britain for decades to come.

I think you are misusing the term Quitter. Just to clarify a quiiter is.....

a person who gives up easily or does not have the courage or determination to finish a task.

Ranting and being abusive won't harmonise European relationships. Doing something constructive on a daily basis. However small is what really matters.

cogito

The EU briefing machine is at it again:

https://www.rte.ie/news/brexit/2017/1123/922191-brexit-embassies/

In the words of Varoufakis:

"Truth reversal

While practising the Swedish national anthem and Penelope ruse tactics, the Brussels establishment utilised tweets, leaks and a campaign of disinformation involving key nodes in the Brussels media network to spread the word that I was the one wasting time, arriving at meetings empty-handed; either with no proposals at all or with proposals that lacked quantification, consisting only of empty ideological rhetoric."

These people really are beneath contempt.

Thrugelmir

ilovehouses wrote: »

In light of this I suspect Davis was asked if they were going to leave and, like a good politician, answered a slightly different question i.e. instead of 'yes it looks like it' he went for 'we're not forcing them to'.

Which is the correct answer. As he cannot answer on behalf of for obvious reasons. The dissection of what gets said in the media is somewhat overblown.