UKCPS final notice before court proceedings

waamo

If you just didn't realise you shouldn't have parked there

The signage clearly wasn't prominent enough then. If it was you would have seen it.

Redx

the fact is that the OP was not the driver so unless UKCPS have followed POFA2012 the keeper is not liable for the charge

the driver may not have seen the signs, but the KEEPER bears no responsibility UNLESS ukcps can prove they followed POFA2012 and therefore transfer liability to the keeper (to the OP)

the legalese letters are to point out any issues they have with the actual claim , which may include the above

this is a legal matter, so all the paperwork is in legalese, its a fact of life

The_Deep

If they did take this to court they might struggle. PPCs deliberately avoid issuing sticking backed tickets so that they can try this con, but judges are increasingly throwing out their claims. Read this,

https://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=navclient&hl=en-GB&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4GUEA_en-GBGB707GB707&q=parlking+fine+fluttering++ticket&gws_rd=ssl

BlueBell2

How do i know if they have followed POFA2012 correctly? One of their letters states...
"If you are the registered keeper under POFA 2012 Schedule 4 sub paragraph (8)(ii) and you have not within the last 28 days of receipt of our last letter informed us of the name of the driver, we now have the right to recover from the keeper so much of the amount as remains unpaid, shown above"

Redx wrote: »

the fact is that the OP was not the driver so unless UKCPS have followed POFA2012 the keeper is not liable for the charge

the driver may not have seen the signs, but the KEEPER bears no responsibility UNLESS ukcps can prove they followed POFA2012 and therefore transfer liability to the keeper (to the OP)

the legalese letters are to point out any issues they have with the actual claim , which may include the above

this is a legal matter, so all the paperwork is in legalese, its a fact of life

Redx

explained in the NEWBIES sticky thread

but in simple terms

the NTK has to have the correct details as listed by the law called POFA2012 (and)

UKCPS have to have sent this to you by day 15 in cases of ANPR or camera captures

OR

they have to have sent it to you between day 29 and day 56 in cases where a ticket was issued to the driver (NTD) on the day in question

if they followed POFA2012 to the letter, the law says they can transfer liabilty to you as keeper, if they failed to folllow all the steps required, then as keeper you are not liable

as keeper (and not the driver) you would not have seen the signage as you werent there

other factors they have to meet too

the IPC CoP
A LANDOWNER CONTRACT
SIGNAGE

etc

bluetoffee1878

I've had a bit of recent exposure to these scammers.

It seems that they put a ticket on the windscreen, followed up with a notice to keeper which states on the back that the opportunity to appeal has now lapsed and no appeal is available unless "exceptional circumstances" (bit naughty that I reckon).

They then ignore the template IPC appeal.

They then send what they call a "notification letter" giving the keeper 14 days to pay, and also stating that the keeper had the right to appeal but 21 days have elapsed since the NTK so out of time to appeal.

A third letter then arrives with scary red font, increasing the charge to £150 with no explanation why. It's not really an LBA but in my case I am treating it as such. (I have seen other UKCPS letters actually titled 'Letter Before Court Claim')

In my case I am replying with an edited version of the LBA reply in the newbies thread here https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/73208118#Comment_73208118

Don't just copy and paste, as this was written for Gladstones Solicitors and you would be writing to UKCPS so make sure you edit and read it so it makes sense.

The important bit is the new protocol that came into force October 1st which this letter covers

hope this helps