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Maxing Out the Counterclaim - Call to action!!!

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  • safarmuk
    safarmuk Posts: 648 Forumite
    I think a "drop hands" offer (pertinent to saving the defendants and courts time and costs) outlining very clearly why the claim has no prospect of success AND stating categorically why would be a very good case for unreasonable behaviour especially if in the hearing itself those points were exactly what the DJ ruled in favour of the defendant on.

    I think we should encourage all users of this site to send in such a "drop hands" offer going forward (where the case is very strong such as claxtome's).
  • The_Deep
    The_Deep Posts: 16,830 Forumite
    think we should encourage all users of this site to send in such a "drop hands" offer


    I don't. I think that we should take every opportunity we can to stiff them for as much money as we can.


    Sending them an LBA costs pence, their having to deal with it costs £££.
    You never know how far you can go until you go too far.
  • I've had a few run ins and the best thing to do is to immedaitekly slap in a counterclaim...that way they simply can't drop it, or if they do, you can still go to court and make a profit on the counterclaim
  • 1. Failure to comply with the pre-action obligations:
    I've already done full arguments on this, quoting the case law, which many litigants have used.

    Are you happy to share ?? Where can we get a copy of this??
  • beamerguy
    beamerguy Posts: 17,587 Forumite
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    I've had a few run ins and the best thing to do is to immedaitekly slap in a counterclaim...that way they simply can't drop it, or if they do, you can still go to court and make a profit on the counterclaim

    In theory but what would you counterclaim that a judge
    would accept ?
  • safarmuk
    safarmuk Posts: 648 Forumite
    think we should encourage all users of this site to send in such a "drop hands" offer

    I don't. I think that we should take every opportunity we can to stiff them for as much money as we can.

    Sending them an LBA costs pence, their having to deal with it costs £££.
    But ... we suspect that they don't read the letters sent to them in response to the LBCs, so the claim will continue regardless. So, when it does and the defendant wins this "drop hands" offer can be shown in court to support unreasonableness.
  • https://www.dropbox.com/preview/COSTS%20APPLICATION%20updated.docx?role=personal


    Costs arguments with case law on pre-action obligations.


    Note that this pre-dates the new Protocol so the bit on breaches may require amending, but the case law bits are still OK, and the sanctions paras of the old Practice Direction STILL apply - the Protocol specifically states this.
    Although a practising Solicitor, my posts here are NOT legal advice, but are personal opinion based on limited facts provided anonymously by forum users. I accept no liability for the accuracy of any such posts and users are advised that, if they wish to obtain formal legal advice specific to their case, they must seek instruct and pay a solicitor.
  • Struggling to get that link to work/open....
  • still not working? it works if I click on it.


    Here it is again
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/4cn1tbjiim1ycsl/COSTS%20APPLICATION%20updated.docx?dl=0


    I copied the link in a different way so it might work better this time
    Although a practising Solicitor, my posts here are NOT legal advice, but are personal opinion based on limited facts provided anonymously by forum users. I accept no liability for the accuracy of any such posts and users are advised that, if they wish to obtain formal legal advice specific to their case, they must seek instruct and pay a solicitor.
  • still not working? it works if I click on it.


    Here it is again
    https://www.dropbox.com/s/4cn1tbjiim1ycsl/COSTS%20APPLICATION%20updated.docx?dl=0


    I copied the link in a different way so it might work better this time


    Worked a treat!!! Thanks
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