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Discussion - ivory ban
soolin
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I know we have a few antique dealers on here and I imagine many of us do come across ivory quite frequently (I know I do). Whilst ebay ban the sale of it outright it is currently possible to legally trade in ivory as long as it is pre 1947 and can be proven as such, that looks like it is likely to change in the coming year:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-41512796
Personally I won't touch the stuff, pre 1947 or not, I have occasionally had some in a mixed box but until recently had someone who worked for a big animal charity who took it away to be destroyed.
In the US there has been a ban in place now for a while but casual dealers are still being caught out on occasions usually when they sell old tourist pieces like carved elephants that had ivory tusks.
I just thought it might be useful to place this post here for information.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-41512796
Personally I won't touch the stuff, pre 1947 or not, I have occasionally had some in a mixed box but until recently had someone who worked for a big animal charity who took it away to be destroyed.
In the US there has been a ban in place now for a while but casual dealers are still being caught out on occasions usually when they sell old tourist pieces like carved elephants that had ivory tusks.
I just thought it might be useful to place this post here for information.
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I don't think ivory that already exists should be destroyed since it won't bring the elephants back, but I'm happy with the ban on trading it.0
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I don't think ivory that already exists should be destroyed since it won't bring the elephants back, but I'm happy with the ban on trading it.
In the US, and it appears to be likely to be the same here, it will not be illegal to own ivory but it will be illegal to sell or buy it. It is my own personal choice not to even own it and since I won't sell it that rather leaves me in a predicament.I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the eBay, Auctions, Car Boot & Jumble Sales, Boost Your Income, Praise, Vents & Warnings, Overseas Holidays & Travel Planning , UK Holidays, Days Out & Entertainments boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know.. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com.All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.0 -
If there is a demand for "current" ivory, then the suppliers should farm the animals. With from fields to furniture guarantee and some quickly identifiable chemical fed the stock so it can be assured as genuinely conserved and farmed rather than poached.0
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Having a demand for something doesn't always mean it has to be supplied.DigForVictory wrote: »If there is a demand for "current" ivory, then the suppliers should farm the animals..0 -
think farmers will keep a herd of full grown elephants in their back garden?
Seriously!!! PMSL0 -
DigForVictory wrote: »If there is a demand for "current" ivory, then the suppliers should farm the animals. With from fields to furniture guarantee and some quickly identifiable chemical fed the stock so it can be assured as genuinely conserved and farmed rather than poached.
...and this ivory can be identified...how???Googling on your question might have been both quicker and easier, if you're only after simple facts rather than opinions!0 -
Farming elephants seems like a a good idea but the cost would make the ivory expensive.
Far easier and cheaper to do like now. Kill a wild elephant, or injure the elephant so you can safely saw off the ivory. Its all great it being banned for trade in the USA but its an insignificant problem there compared to Asia where it will be traded freely in full knowledge how it was obtained. Instead of dealing with a problem, we make a little insignificant gesture and pat ourselves on the back of how great we are.0 -
Wouldn't touch it myself.
As to farming elephants I haven't had such a good laugh for a while.0 -
trigger_fish wrote: »Wouldn't touch it myself.
As to farming elephants I haven't had such a good laugh for a while.
Not quite sure why the idea of farming elephants is so funny? Surely it not a million miles away from farming rhino, and that's "a thing". http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/01/160122-Hume-South-Africa-rhino-farm/0 -
donnac2558 wrote: »think farmers will keep a herd of full grown elephants in their back garden?
Seriously!!! PMSL
Do you think that farmers keep herds of full grown cows/sheep in their back gardens?0
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