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ESA overpayment please advise

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  • epitome
    epitome Posts: 3,199 Forumite
    edited 3 October 2017 at 8:50PM
    50K is more than me and my partner put together and we both work full time. But anyway that's not important....

    What is important is this....Please answer every question.

    Your work:
    The work that you did for the 7 months, how many paid hours a week was it? (lunch time is not paid)
    Was the working hours constant or varied?
    Did you ever work more than 16 hours in a week?


    Your benefits:

    How much is your ESA per week before deductions?
    Do you ever get DLA Care middle or high?
    You said your DLA changed to PIP and then told to reapply..
    Did you ever get awarded PIP Daily Living? (i.e. before you were told to reapply for PIP)


    Also, you should take good advice like the National Debt Line
    https://www.nationaldebtline.org/EW/Pages/contactus/debtadvice.aspx
    Ask them if the DWP can put a Direct Earnings Attachment onto your partner's earnings if you start to live with him. I think the answer is no, because you will not have a claim to benefit together and you will not be married.
  • poppy12345
    poppy12345 Posts: 18,884 Forumite
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    ragdoll24 wrote: »
    Yes you are correct I have been told if I move in with my partner then ESA stops. I’m already paying back the overpayment yo ESA which I have been doing for a number of months now but like I said if I move in with my partner then I get no income at all. I don’t have the energy to try and claim PIP again as we are all aware that PIP doesn’t pay out for depression/anxiety any more like DLA kindly did and my severe hypertension also doesn’t warrant PIP.
    I really don’t know what to do as I’m struggling in my own, not just financially but also physically.
    I dknow someone posted surely my partners good income can fund everything but unfortunayely when you live in an area where even a small 3 bed house to rent is between £900 and £1300 a month and council tax around £180 a month plus all the other bills and as I stated he has his own debts from a previous relationship and I have my debts his salary doesn’t cover it all, no way near.
    Yes I want to return to work ASAP but I can’t help it that I’m not fit to work, I have been walking around with blood pressure over 200 and warned by the hospital and gp if I don’t rest (not to go out to work) then I am at risk of a stroke or heart attack until they get me on a medication that will work.
    That's incorrect. PIP isn't awarded based on a diagnosis. It's about how your condtions affect you on a daily basis.
  • ragdoll24
    ragdoll24 Posts: 80 Forumite
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    My depression/anxiety and hypertension effect me in a daily basis as on my worst days which is a good 5 out of 7 days I sit shaking and crying, I relive the abuse I suffered from my estranged husband all the time and I still have to remain in contact with him because of the children so he still sends me assistive text messages and mucks around with the contact order with the children by either turning up late, cancelling at last min, not having them during his allocated time during school holidays, running me down in front of the children etc etc because I’m so vulnerable all this deeply upsets me and the depression and anxiety become unbearable (I have taken an overdose 3 times since I left him) as I find it hard to deal with the control he still has over me. Some days I even find it hard to concentrate on cooking a meal or anything like dealing with letters, debts etc etc. My hypertension causes me to feel extremely tired, blackouts, banging headaches, breathlessness and I have ended up in hospital 4 times in the past 12mths where I have collapsed, my bp has been sat at around 201/167 / 188/142 for the past 12mths. I just want to get better but the constant strain of trying to make ends meet and 3 children needing so many different things for school, clothes, shoes, school uniform etc etc is really hard
    Anyway thank you for some of the kind and helpful comments I have received but I can see a lot of unhelpful ones when I said what my partner earns and the people who have made those comments saying what he earns should cover everything have not once taken into consideration that different areas in the uk have very different living costs. Not once has anyone thought and I say this on behalf of all single parents that the absent partner gets away with not paying a penny for their children even when they start a new life with a new partner their new partner their new partner isn’t expected to find their children? Yet if the single parent moves in with their partner then he/she is expected to cover the children’s costs? I thought we were living in a world of equality but I don’t see any equality in that. Some of you have mentioned that what I done working last year was intentional and deliberate obviously those people haven’t suffered abuse, depression and anxiety. These conditions can often cause a person not to think straight and when desperate cause them to make bad choices like take an overdose or go out to work in desperation to pay bills without declaring. At least my guilt of doing that made me confess and repay, but my children’s father blatantly works and earns very good money he even taunts me in texts messages and laughes at me struggling financially yet even when I sent evidence of him working to CSA and HMRC (evidence was text messages and emails) they could not or would not act on them. Even when he doneckegal work a few years ago he refused to pay CSA and owes just over £3k in CSA arrests but they do nothing to make him pay that back. Where is the fairness in all that.
    All I want is the time to get better and get my hypertension under control in order to go out to work as no employer will give me a job when I fill out their job application forms which asks for medical details as knowing I have severe high blood pressure and have been told to rest they would be at risk of me collapsing. So it’s a complete vicious circle for someone like me in these circumstances.
  • Sncjw
    Sncjw Posts: 3,567 Forumite
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    Could your son get a part time job so your not paying for his travel and lunch for college
    Mortgage free wannabe 

    Actual mortgage stating amount £75,150

    Overpayment paused to pay off cc 

    Starting balance £66,565.45

    Current balance £58,108

    Cc around 8k. 

  • epitome
    epitome Posts: 3,199 Forumite
    Questions...........answers
  • ragdoll24
    ragdoll24 Posts: 80 Forumite
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    We live a little out of the way from a local town or and there is no direct bus route for him to catch a bus to get a job and the only local place near to us which is a petrol station who were advertising part time jobs and he applied they could not take him as you have to be 18yrs old to work in a petrol station even though he was applying for a position in the subway section. Any other job he could apply from would mean me driving him there and picking him up.
  • epitome
    epitome Posts: 3,199 Forumite
    ok maybe you need to stop trying to justify your situation in every post to who ever you think is reading them....

    And just answer the questions in post #12 so that maybe, you can start to get some help, which is what you came here for, right?
  • ragdoll24
    ragdoll24 Posts: 80 Forumite
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    You don’t need to be so aggressive. The reason I have not answered those questions as there is no point, I done wrong by trying to work when claiming ESA, I confessed and now I’m paying it back. I am on ESA income related and in the care group. DLA I was on lower rate care and lower rate mobility for 12mths, it changed to PIP and I had to reapply under PIP and was rejected, MIND had been helping me through all this and told me to challenge it, but I was so ill that I didn’t have the energy to fight it.
  • poppy12345
    poppy12345 Posts: 18,884 Forumite
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    ragdoll24 wrote: »
    You don’t need to be so aggressive. The reason I have not answered those questions as there is no point, I done wrong by trying to work when claiming ESA, I confessed and now I’m paying it back. I am on ESA income related and in the care group. DLA I was on lower rate care and lower rate mobility for 12mths, it changed to PIP and I had to reapply under PIP and was rejected, MIND had been helping me through all this and told me to challenge it, but I was so ill that I didn’t have the energy to fight it.
    Epitome is extremely knowledgable when it comes to ESA. Seems you don't don't want that help even though you posted here. If you answer the questions in post #12 relating to the hours you worked over those 7 months Epitome maybe able to help you. There's no care group of ESA so i'm guessing you mean the Support Group...
  • ragdoll24
    ragdoll24 Posts: 80 Forumite
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    Thank you but I don’t need help with the overpayment, I know I was wrong and I declared it and I have to pay it back and I’m not disputing that! My question was what happens if I move in with my partner because I’d i do move in with my partner I loose all benefits including ESA so therefore I will not be bringing in any money what so ever until my illness is sorted and I can go back to work and my question as been what will ESA so about the overpayment I’m paying back each month if I’m not getting any money??? That is my question and has been from the start!!! I’m not disputing the ESA overpayment, I accept that and that’s why I declared it and that’s why I’m paying it back!
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