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I have different suppliers for gas/leccy with a smart meter on the electric. If I get the gas moved, would I have a separate smart meter display? I’m guessing the answer is yes, in which case I won’t bother :D

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  • spiro
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    I have different suppliers for gas/leccy with a smart meter on the electric. If I get the gas moved, would I have a separate smart meter display? I’m guessing the answer is yes, in which case I won’t bother :D
    No, you have 1 IHD for both fuels.
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    I have different suppliers for gas/leccy with a smart meter on the electric. If I get the gas moved, would I have a separate smart meter display? I’m guessing the answer is yes, in which case I won’t bother :D


    Very few people on this forum.get excited about IHD's. Mine ended up in the back of a drawer after a week.
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    I have different suppliers for gas/leccy with a smart meter on the electric. If I get the gas moved, would I have a separate smart meter display? I’m guessing the answer is yes, in which case I won’t bother :D

    I am not aware of any supplier offering a smart meter just for a single fuel unless it is an electric only property. This situation could well change when SMETS2 meters are available which communicate with a central hub and not individual suppliers.
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  • Raxiel
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    I can only speak for my own make/model of smart meters, but I believe they are pretty typical.

    The electricity meter is the one that has all the connectivity built in, both to the supplier/DCC and to the IHD, the gas meter (where fitted) transmits a regular reading to the electricity meter, which stores and relays the data.

    The gas meter is battery powered, which is why it's communication functions are so limited, there isn't the energy budget to have a persistent link to a dedicated or shared IHD.
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  • EachPenny
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    Raxiel wrote: »
    The gas meter is battery powered, which is why it's communication functions are so limited, there isn't the energy budget to have a persistent link to a dedicated or shared IHD.

    You have to wonder - with the virtually unlimited financial budget available for the Smart Meter programme - why some bright spark didn't decide to spec gas smart meters with an inbuilt miniaturised CCGT generator to keep the batteries charged and have all the energy budget they wanted ;)
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  • Raxiel
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    EachPenny wrote: »
    You have to wonder - with the virtually unlimited financial budget available for the Smart Meter programme - why some bright spark didn't decide to spec gas smart meters with an inbuilt miniaturised CCGT generator to keep the batteries charged and have all the energy budget they wanted ;)

    My gas meter wheezes enough as it is, I wouldn't want it to whistle too!

    It did occur to me that some sort of mechanical generator that uses the gas flow (the same way the bellows in the meter turn the counter) could possibly work, but then you risk people with low usage having their meter go dumb randomly
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  • AndyPK
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    Arh another thing to consider.

    Hengus wrote: »
    I am not aware of any supplier offering a smart meter just for a single fuel unless it is an electric only property.


    SSE offered me an Electric one recently
    and my gas is with Npower
  • Hengus wrote: »
    I am not aware of any supplier offering a smart meter just for a single fuel unless it is an electric only property. This situation could well change when SMETS2 meters are available which communicate with a central hub and not individual suppliers.
    BG initially gave me a IHD for my single electric meter which also used the same IHD when the gas smart was fitted not long after. Dual fuel smarts usually use the same IHD with a selection of gas or electric details
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