Women's clothes sizes

moneyistooshorttomention

Red-Squirrel wrote: »

And you need to work on your manners!

She asked whether she needed to lose weight - I agreed.

Is one supposed to lie and say "No, of course you don't". I thought she had asked for us to tell the truth and not lie???:huh:

Lie coming up (in case that is what is wanted):
"No of course not. You're plumptious. Big girls are gorgeous. Love yourself. You're curvacious. Men like something to get hold of. It's what is inside that matters".

Would you like any further - nice polite - lying?

Pollycat

Gloomendoom wrote: »

Don't get me started on bra sizing. As a bloke, I find it completely illogical.

I briefly ventured into the dark realms of lingerie a couple of years ago when attempting to surprise my wife with an untypical Christmas present. On the face of it a simple task, just check the labels in her underwear drawer and buy something the same size, except that my wife cuts the labels out so they don't show. I ended up venturing to the local branch of Bravisimo where I knew she had had a fitting. There I discovered that cup sizes are not set volumes but vary depending on the back size and, despite not looking particularly buxom, my wife's cup size would probably give Jessica Rabbit an inferiority complex.

I got the bra but I think I'll stick to cookery books in future.

Unless you're buying the same brand in the same style, that wouldn't necessarily give you a bra that fitted.
I can buy a specific size bra in one size from one brand but the same size from another doesn't fit.

LavenderBee wrote: »

It's like my one attempt at a professional bra fitting: "you're either x or y". I knew I was "x" or "y", what I was really hoping for was her to tell me which one I should be buying!

Many years ago we had a small shop in town that specialised in underwear and swimwear.
Both ladies could look at someone and pretty much assess their proper size.
She told me that I should bend forward and jiggle my bust into my bra for it to fit best..
Sadly, like a lot of specialist shops they closed years ago.

It sounds like your bra fitter wasn't very well qualified.

Quizzical Squirrel:

Pollycat wrote: »

It's probably me but I don't understand this - and that's speaking as a woman who's always been big busted and always understood how bra sizing worked.

What is the 'new bra sizing measurement method' and when did it change?

lemontart

Hermia wrote: »

I find bras a nightmare. I usually just pick out one in three different sizes to try on. A woman in M&S tried to explain how the sizing worked and it went straight over my head!

Just bought some new ones from there, got measured etc and what is a c up there is a dd cup elsewhere and sure their tape measures differ so gonna measure old and new bras tonight to check !

Gloomendoom

Pollycat wrote: »

Unless you're buying the same brand in the same style, that wouldn't necessarily give you a bra that fitted.
I can buy a specific size bra in one size from one brand but the same size from another doesn't fit.

I found that out. The bra I bought is actually slightly too small despite being some ludicrous (vanity?) size like F or G or something and the same size as the shop had on file. That is why I now stick to the safe option; cookery books.

Pollycat

Gloomendoom wrote: »

I found that out. The bra I bought is actually slightly too small despite being some ludicrous (vanity?) size like F or G or something and the same size as the shop had on file. That is why I now stick to the safe option; cookery books.

What's ludicrous about being a size F or G? (you missed out FF).

If you're a F, FF or G cup (or bigger), then where does vanity come into it?
That's your size.

hunters

moneyistooshorttomention wrote: »

She asked whether she needed to lose weight - I agreed.

Is one supposed to lie and say "No, of course you don't". I thought she had asked for us to tell the truth and not lie???:huh:

Lie coming up (in case that is what is wanted):
"No of course not. You're plumptious. Big girls are gorgeous. Love yourself. You're curvacious. Men like something to get hold of. It's what is inside that matters".

Would you like any further - nice polite - lying?

You are the one who lies to yourself every time you try to suggest that because you wore size 10 in 1970 that you are still a size 10 and not the size 16/18 you really are.

Sarcasm is not polite and doesn’t become you.

pollypenny

I wear the same size now, 10-12 at 9st as I did at age 20 and 8st.

Any article featuring a female celebrity or successful slimmer seems to use American sizing. I see hefty-looking women, whose weight is given and considerably more than mine, quoted as size 8.

I could quote Jim Royle here!

Gloomendoom

Pollycat wrote: »

What's ludicrous about being a size F or G? (you missed out FF).

Why isn't FF a G? Is it a half size?

If you're a F, FF or G cup (or bigger), then where does vanity come into it?
That's your size.

Because my wife doesn't look how I imagine a woman with an F, FF or G bust should look. The media conditions us (men) into believing that Page 3 models are all DD and my wife is simply not that big.

To my engineering oriented brain, bras should have a cup size proportionate to volume and a back size. A C cup for a 28" back bra would have exactly the same volume as a C cup for a 40" back bra... and so on.

onomatopoeia99

elsien wrote: »

It also varies a lot between shops - a size 16 in one shop will have different measurements in other shops. Rather than just look at the sizes, try to work out which brands have more generous sizing - for example I find M&S to be a little more spacious.]

I can remember my mother saying to one of her friends when I was young "I like M&S as I'm a size 10 there but a size 12 in (other store)."

Clearly "dress size" is not an SI unit ...

Pollycat

Gloomendoom wrote: »

Why isn't FF a G? Is it a half size?

I have no idea.
Maybe ask the people who invented bra cup sizes.
Is that what ? you mean by 'vanity'?

Gloomendoom wrote: »

Because my wife doesn't look how I imagine a woman with an F, FF or G bust should look. The media conditions us (men) into believing that Page 3 models are all DD and my wife is simply not that big.

To my engineering oriented brain, bras should have a cup size proportionate to volume and a back size. A C cup for a 28" back bra would have exactly the same volume as a C cup for a 40" back bra... and so on.

If your wife measures a F, FF or G cup (or whatever) then that's the size she is regardless of 'how she looks'.

I guess your idea makes sense but that's not how it is