CGT Changes

BobProperty

moneysavinmonkey wrote: »

Clutton- you are dreaming if you think private tenants have the same security of tenure and rights as council tenants.

You are mixing up law and practice here. No council would have wanted the property back for the reasons your private landlords did, but you are no better protected in law if you were a council tenant AFAIK. I suspect there weren't any council houses exactly where you were living anyway, so it becomes a difficult comparison to make, but you chose those locations presumably.

moneysavinmonkey

in law there is a difference - council tenants have "secure tenancies" not ASTs - see shelter website. http://england.shelter.org.uk/advice/advice-6501.cfm

In any case it is what happens in practice that matters - winning the legal argument is hardly relevant

It is true where i live there is very little council tenancys - i doubt very much i would even qualify having made various mistakes including bothering to work and pay tax, not having any fatherless children, and saving my hard-earned cash rather that getting into debt.

Gorgeous_George

Some tenants want security of tenure even when they do not pay the rent. It was attitudes like this that lead to the Tories selling council houses. Well, that and buying votes.

Private LLs cannot afford rent arrears.

GG

IveSeenTheLight

moneysavinmonkey wrote: »

My boyfriend and I have been 'evicted' three times in the last 18 months since we moved to a new part of the country. Each time incurring moving expenses + taking up time and just generally being a stress and a hassle.

Eviction has been served due to: landlord emigrating, landlord wanting to sell, landlord needing property back for family.
On every occasion we have been model tenants and had our full deposit back (although usually with some needless delay).
We have no say in whether we want to move or not and i would genuinely find it quite upsetting if it happened again as I'm sick of moving and would like to settle somewhere for longer than 6 months.
The part of the country where i live, housing is very expensive and even with our joint professional salaries and help from my parents we can not afford to buy.

Exactly why should a BTL be afraid to rent to me?

Although I can see why some people have turned to BTL to make a living or provide a pension, ultimately i think that this is wrong and should not be encouraged by the government.

A whopping great big tax cut for 2nd property owners, and absolutely no help whatsoever extended to those young people who made the mistake of getting themselves educated and trying to earn a living rather than just getting pregnant and claiming benefits. thanks Gordon.

Clutton- you are dreaming if you think private tenants have the same security of tenure and rights as council tenants.

I am truly sorry to hear of your situation and you make your point very well, I do however wonder if you are unfortunately the exception to the rule.
It's fact the BTLers have a second property to rent out, therefore want them rented for as long as possible.
There will always be reasons for a BTLer taking the property off the market and its unfortunate you have found 3 of them in 18 months.
I know of properties that have been rented out to the same tenants for in excess of 15 years.
Have you asked to rent a property out for a longer period (even 1 year)?

You have my sympathy for your situation and I hope that you either manage to find a rental property that you can have for a longer period or you find a property which is within your budget to buy.

I'm sure there are properties out there within your budget, its just a case of whether you are willing to live in a property of that size and location

franklee

clutton wrote: »

Carolt and franklee i have absolutely nothing whatsoever to be ashamed about, nor will i apologise or justify how i run my business, nor will i continue to engage in this pointless circular argument - we clearly hold diametrically opposite views on Section 21 - neither of us is going to change our stance - its become very boring.

You may continue to beat me with a metaphorical stick if you wish - i have made my position quite clear, as have you, and i have nothing further to add. Let us agree to differ.

I am asking what procedure you follow to resolve the following contradictory points: How can the tenant know they can stay for a long time AND there be a valid section 21 notice in place?

I see that as a technical question asking about S21 validity. I am really surprised and curious why you would consider it otherwise, it makes me wonder even more what you tell your tenants. It isn't a circular argument either as although I've asked more than once you haven't answered.

I had thought the side to this open to differing views, or ethics is when the S21 should be served which I already know we disagree on and so deliberately did not ask.

So to be clear I am not asking when you serve the S21 (I already know you do it at the start of the tenancy), nor am I discussing the ethics of this, I'm simply asking how you let your tenants know they can stay in the face of the S21 AND still keep the S21 valid. I am asking not to "beat you with a metaphorical stick" but simply because I want to know the answer as I genuinely do not see how it can be done any more than I can see how I can have my cake and eat it