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New Capital Gains Tax rules from 6 April 2008

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  • mroller
    mroller Posts: 397 Forumite
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    does this mean that all capital gains are tax free up to 9200£ (like before) and then taxable at 18%?
  • Aegis
    Aegis Posts: 5,695 Forumite
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    mroller wrote: »
    does this mean that all capital gains are tax free up to 9200£ (like before) and then taxable at 18%?
    That would appear to be the case, yes
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  • EdInvestor
    EdInvestor Posts: 15,749 Forumite
    The fall in CGT from 40% to 18% looks very bad news for IBs. :)

    http://www.citywire.co.uk/Blogs/BrokerConsultants/Entry.aspx?VersionID=97366


    What with the end of the IHT gravey train, this is a terrible PBR for the advisor/legal fraternity.:cool:
    Trying to keep it simple...;)
  • StevieJ
    StevieJ Posts: 20,174 Forumite
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    Rubbish, you'd have to have held for 10 years to get indexation allowance, and the maximum taper relief works out at 24%.
    Any BTLers would be better off waiting until next April to sell, when they get a nice tax cut on their speculation.


    http://www.citywire.co.uk/News/NewsArticle.aspx?VersionID=97374&MenuKey=News.Home

    This article quotes a rate of 10% due to taper relief if asset held for held for two years.
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • Aegis
    Aegis Posts: 5,695 Forumite
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    That would be for commercial assets.
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  • Jon211
    Jon211 Posts: 25 Forumite
    Rubbish, you'd have to have held for 10 years to get indexation allowance, and the maximum taper relief works out at 24%.
    Any BTLers would be better off waiting until next April to sell, when they get a nice tax cut on their speculation.

    That's not how taper relief works.
    You don't get charged at 60% of the 40% tax level if you've had the asset for 10 years.

    The taxable value is reduced to 60% of the capital gain.

    So, you acquired an asset 10 years ago for £10K
    It is now worth £25K.
    This is a £15K capital gain, but the taper relief takes the taxable capital gain to 60% * £15K, i.e. £9K.

    This is below the threshold for tax so you would pay no CGT on this.

    Your post makes it sounds as though you would pay 24% tax on the £15K capital gain.

    I need to work out exactly how this will affect me.
    I have several unit trusts purchased before 1998 that will be eligible for indexation allowance and taper relief.

    I think I can sell just about all of them at the moment without incurring CGT but will need to do some calculations.
  • StevieJ
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    Aegis wrote: »
    That would be for commercial assets.

    I would have thought that BTL were commercial assets if run as a Limited company, I accept your point that it appears that properties are excluded.
    'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher
  • Aegis
    Aegis Posts: 5,695 Forumite
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    StevieJ wrote: »
    I would have thought that BTL were commercial assets if run as a Limited company, I accept your point that it appears that properties are excluded.
    I didn't think I was making a point, but thanks for accepting whatever point I made! ;)
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  • ManAtHome
    ManAtHome Posts: 8,512 Forumite
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    At least it's taken attention away from the latest NuLab pension grab http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/retirement/article.html?in_article_id=425185&in_page_id=6
  • Tiggs_2
    Tiggs_2 Posts: 440 Forumite
    EdInvestor wrote: »
    http://www.citywire.co.uk/Blogs/BrokerConsultants/Entry.aspx?VersionID=97366


    What with the end of the IHT gravey train, this is a terrible PBR for the advisor/legal fraternity.:cool:


    Its a pity that the media is giving the impression that something significant has happened to the IHT allowance. I can see why people like Ed are confused on this issue so goodness knows what the public at large make of it.

    IHT has NEVER been payable by married couples with assets up to £600k. All thats ended is the need for expensive Will planning (bad news for Will writers) The "IHT market" is one that exits for people with assets over £600k and theres no change there.

    Quite important that those who have an IHT liability dont think that they are in any real way improved by the change in rules.
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