help needed with car any mechanics out there.

Wig

A quick google for BMW 320D turbo failure will bring up all the links you need including this one, sorry, I was wrong about the 7K it is 2 - 3K

http://www.dooyoo.co.uk/cars/bmw-320d/1029278/

But the main point was as hartcj noted. "We do them them all the time" a known dangerous inherent design fault, and BMW just ignores the problem.

harveybobbles

Yes they are common to fail. But only thru lack of maintenence. not mechanical failure.
We buy them as three year old cars from leasing companies. Part of our PDI work is to replace the breathers. As they get gunged uip with muck, thus causing oil starvation to the turbo. End reult: Turbo failure.

To anyone who has one; make sure the breathers get cleaned out when you are having any servicing work done. Only takes a moment or two. But saves you a few hundred quid! (or £2-3 depending where you go lol)

Wig

harveybobbles wrote: »

Yes they are common to fail. But only thru lack of maintenence. not mechanical failure.
We buy them as three year old cars from leasing companies. Part of our PDI work is to replace the breathers. As they get gunged uip with muck, thus causing oil starvation to the turbo. End reult: Turbo failure.

To anyone who has one; make sure the breathers get cleaned out when you are having any servicing work done. Only takes a moment or two. But saves you a few hundred quid! (or £2-3 depending where you go lol)

Ok but there must be a reason why those particular cars get gunged up, and other makes do not. There is a design fault on BMW 320D which is not there on any other car that I am aware of.

I've read a different explantion, that it is because of driving and stopping and turning off the engine, thus the oil in the hot bearings burns away and carbonises. the way to do it is to let the car idle when you stop for 5 miutes before turning it off.

harveybobbles

Wig wrote: »

Ok but there must be a reason why those particular cars get gunged up, and other makes do not. There is a design fault on BMW 320D which is not there on any other car that I am aware of.

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Bollox. Not a design fault. Just incorrect workmanship!

Saab's are another one that blow up. But thats a bad design...

Wig

harveybobbles wrote: »

Not a design fault. Just incorrect workmanship!

I'm not sure what you're saying, those two things mean the same thing to me.

Just explain why loads of 320D turbos fail, and the same is not for most other cars with turbos including other BMWs. You can't tell me that BMW 320D drivers are any worse than any other drivers or that the mechanics who do them are not doing something they always do for other cars.

harveybobbles

Wig wrote: »

I'm not sure what you're saying, those two things mean the same thing to me.

Just explain why loads of 320D turbos fail, and the same is not for most other cars with turbos including other BMWs. You can't tell me that BMW 320D drivers are any worse than any other drivers or that the mechanics who do them are not doing something they always do for other cars.

Its exactly that - the people doing the maintenence don't always check the breathers. B'cos of the EU ruling, you don't have to have your car serviced by main dealers to keep the warrenty valid. So Jo blogs who does servicing on anything, may not know about the need to check/clean the breathers out.

We don't. It's not part of any service menu.

Unless we have a 320d in stock. Then we make damm sure the breathers can do just that!

6 cylinder ones seem ok. Its the 4 pot.

Wig

So you're saying, that service personnel all over Europe treat the BMW 320D differently from all other BMWs and all other makes?

Why on Earth would they all single out the 320D for substandard servicing?

harveybobbles

Cos main dealers follow what it says on the service check sheets.

Audi did this with their CVT 'box a few years ago. They knew about the fault, but unless YOU specified that they changed the ATF every 40,000 miles, they didnt bother.

harveybobbles

Also, companies like us who buy 3 year old ex-lease stuff have normally had 2 services. One around 20 and the other around 40. Then at 60 they get rid. So chances are the breathers wont have been touched because "its on 40,000 it'll be ok" will be the view of a mechanic.

Believe me, i know! Been there, seen it, done it!