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matthewcallaghan
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Hi
I have hit rock bottom. I have been bad for years but now have got to a stage where I have moved back in with my parent, and even with no rent or utilities still owe more every month than my salary.
I am roughly paying out £2,400 a month and it is simply getting worse every month, not better and I cannot see any way out. I have zero other collateral and no free time for extra income (I am aware that this is never true but it certainly feels true and I am becoming quite ill with worry).
I keep seeing ads where they say they can wipe out 85% of debt. I know this involves getting an IVA or even Bankruptcy and it is because I do not want to become either I have tried (and failed) to not use these services.
I am now not sure what to do.
I know that in the long run I will be better if I don't use a service, but at the moment, where even getting in to work and feeding myself relies on borrowing I don't see any other way.
Please can someone help me with advice.
What are the pros and cons. One I see is that if i clear 85% then even while on the 3 year of IVA I will be able to save a fortune... but then I will not be able to rent in the area I want as no doubt I will fail a credit check.
I would be grateful right now for anything.
Cheers
Paddy
I have hit rock bottom. I have been bad for years but now have got to a stage where I have moved back in with my parent, and even with no rent or utilities still owe more every month than my salary.
I am roughly paying out £2,400 a month and it is simply getting worse every month, not better and I cannot see any way out. I have zero other collateral and no free time for extra income (I am aware that this is never true but it certainly feels true and I am becoming quite ill with worry).
I keep seeing ads where they say they can wipe out 85% of debt. I know this involves getting an IVA or even Bankruptcy and it is because I do not want to become either I have tried (and failed) to not use these services.
I am now not sure what to do.
I know that in the long run I will be better if I don't use a service, but at the moment, where even getting in to work and feeding myself relies on borrowing I don't see any other way.
Please can someone help me with advice.
What are the pros and cons. One I see is that if i clear 85% then even while on the 3 year of IVA I will be able to save a fortune... but then I will not be able to rent in the area I want as no doubt I will fail a credit check.
I would be grateful right now for anything.
Cheers
Paddy
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https://www.stepchange.org/
contact them and use the online tool to see their best suggestions. you will feel better once you have a path out and you're not the first (and certainly not the last!) to be in this situation.
you can repair your credit history. it will take time but you cannot sustain your current debt levels and your credit history is likely to be poor anyway.CCCC #33: £42/£240
DFW: £4355/£44050 -
I did try them and the options available were not promising at the time.
I might try them again, but I am really trying to avoid an IVA at all costs.
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Hi Paddy,
The time will come where you say, enough is enough, people tend to try to struggle on paying out ridiculous sums of money on debt repayments, and not having enough money to live on.
You do not have to live like that, there are solutions in place to help you, but first we need to know more about your circumstances, posting a statement of affairs will tell us more.
An IVA can be a good choice if you have a lot of debt and a house to protect, if you have no, or few assets, then going straight for Bankruptcy can ease the pressure right away, but your debt may not be that serious, in which case a debt management plan or debt relief order may be more appropriate.
There is always a solution, so stop struggling, and re-take control over your finances, starting with an SOA :
http://www.debtadvicefoundation.org/personal-debt-analyserI’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter0 -
Had I realised 3 years ago that my credit report wouldn't improve with defaults & CCJs, I would have went straight for bankruptcy as my outgoings were higher than my income.0
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If your outgoings each month are more than your salary simply on debt and you have little to no living costs I cannot see any option for you other than Bankruptcy or IVA. As presumably you have no house Bankruptcy may be the best option. I would suggest stepchange or post an soa as sourcrates suggests.I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free Wannabe, Budgeting and Banking and Savings and Investment boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.
Click on this link for a Statement of Accounts that can be posted on the DebtFree Wannabe board: https://lemonfool.co.uk/financecalculators/soa.php
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Is your main obstacle to bankruptcy that eventually you want to rent somewhere and the credit check will pose problems?
Are you up to date with your debt payments at the moment?
How do you see this getting better if you just carry on as now? There does have to be a point where you just have to say enough is enough and you cannot carry on as before. How about a self managed DMP or could you qualify for refunds from payday loan companies if you can prove that they were remiss in lending to you? There is a thread on this forum about that.I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free Wannabe, Budgeting and Banking and Savings and Investment boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.
Click on this link for a Statement of Accounts that can be posted on the DebtFree Wannabe board: https://lemonfool.co.uk/financecalculators/soa.php
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#8 is spam, you want to go to a debt charity such as stepchange or national debtline, not some fee charging company looking to leech off the desperate.
Do not come on MSE self-promoting your website, reported and you will soon be gone.Please do not quote spam as this enables it to 'live on' once the spam post is removed.
If you quote me, don't forget the capital 'M'
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The risk of course in quoting a post number as spam is that once it's removed you end up looking like you're saying that your own post is spam...!
:D
OP - I agree that you do sound like a good candidate for bankruptcy and wonder what your real aversion to that route is?
I also agree though that you need to put together your full SOA as this will help to identify if there ARE any savings you can make. If you are currently paying out more than you have coming in each month though it's vital that you tackle your situation quickly now as things aren't going to get any better, are they!🎉 MORTGAGE FREE (First time!) 30/09/2016 🎉 And now we go again…New mortgage taken 01/09/23 🏡
Balance as at 01/09/23 = £115,000.00 Balance as at 31/12/23 = £112,000.00
Balance as at 31/08/24 = £105,400.00 Balance as at 31/12/24 = £102,500.00
Balance as at 31/08/25 = £ 95,450.00
£100k barrier broken 1/4/25SOA CALCULATOR (for DFW newbies): SOA Calculatorshe/her0 -
At the moment this is indeed correct. I guess I am trying to see if somehow I can at least start the path of hitting my debt. I am giving it until January to see if I have made any dent!
Thanksenthusiasticsaver wrote: »If your outgoings each month are more than your salary simply on debt and you have little to no living costs I cannot see any option for you other than Bankruptcy or IVA. As presumably you have no house Bankruptcy may be the best option. I would suggest stepchange or post an soa as sourcrates suggests.0 -
My real aversion is twofold.
1) Years a go ( a long time ago) I helped out somebody and got in to trouble. I applied for an IVA and because of my student loan they said no, and then every account closed on me and demanded I settle. To be honest, I have never really recovered from this.
2) I keep hearing about potential risks to jobs/rent based on having this on my record. I don't want to be in a position where this is a factor down the line. I.e. I start to see a lifeline but can't live or work where I want to. I admit I need to research this a bit more.
Thanks all also!EssexHebridean wrote: »The risk of course in quoting a post number as spam is that once it's removed you end up looking like you're saying that your own post is spam...!:D
OP - I agree that you do sound like a good candidate for bankruptcy and wonder what your real aversion to that route is?
I also agree though that you need to put together your full SOA as this will help to identify if there ARE any savings you can make. If you are currently paying out more than you have coming in each month though it's vital that you tackle your situation quickly now as things aren't going to get any better, are they!0
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