Sip PCN LBCCC received from Glastones

KeithP

Ferritt wrote: »

So i've just submitted my AOS. I assume now I start my defence and submit it online? Does it have to be legally worded? I have taken better pictures of the rubbish signage etc..

Its all abit confusing...

Thanks

Have another look at the post immediately above yours and read the post mentioned there.
There are many links to defences and sample layouts are shown.
In fact all your questions are answered there.

Coupon-mad

I assume now I start my defence and submit it online? Does it have to be legally worded?

Yes it has to be properly set out with headings and in the third person from you as 'The Defendant'. Luckily you have examples to copy from, in the NEWBIES thread; we don't want you to write it from scratch. And no, it is not submitted online on MCOL.

I have taken better pictures of the rubbish signage etc..

Good, but you will know from reading the NEWBIES thread that evidence/photos are not filed yet.

Ferritt

thanks for the help and info. One last thing. Do i need to complete the defence form now or should I do this when I have my defence draft? I didnt want to click on the option and be asked for information I don't have to hand.

Thanks

KeithP

Ferritt wrote: »

thanks for the help and info. One last thing. Do i need to complete the defence form now or should I do this when I have my defence draft? I didnt want to click on the option and be asked for information I don't have to hand.

Thanks

What 'defence form' are you talking about?

Have you read this Bargepole thread?
It's linked from post#2 of the NEWBIES thread.

In there you will see detailed guidance on what you are trying to do now.

In particular:

Do NOT put anything in the 'Defence and Counterclaim' text box, not even a full stop.

You really need to read the whole of that post before doing anything else.

Ferritt

Many thanks. I didnt spot that. Time to get prepping and write up everything.

At no point have I stated who the driver was as all correspondents from Sip and gladstones have been asking me to give the drivers details. I'm I right in thinking that in my write up I still do not give details of the driver and argue that I'm not liable being the registered keeper? Also at any point now or in court do I legally have to say who the driver was??

Thanks again

beamerguy

Ferritt wrote: »

Many thanks. I didnt spot that. Time to get prepping and write up everything.

At no point have I stated who the driver was as all correspondents from Sip and gladstones have been asking me to give the drivers details. I'm I right in thinking that in my write up I still do not give details of the driver and argue that I'm not liable being the registered keeper? Also at any point now or in court do I legally have to say who the driver was??

Thanks again

Just a Gladstones try on ????

YOU ARE THE REGISTERED KEEPER .... NEVER THE DRIVER

Coupon-mad

I'm I right in thinking that in my write up I still do not give details of the driver and argue that I'm not liable being the registered keeper?

It's up to you, depends on what your defence is about. Some strong cases are much better argued by the driver, and it's easier to stand up at a hearing and explain as driver.

Also at any point now or in court do I legally have to say who the driver was??

Well noooo...but if a Judge actually asked, you'd find it hard not to answer and would look like you were hiding material facts. Decide now how you will handle this. SIP Notice to Keeper letters are fairly compliant with the POFA aren't they (or did you never get one?).

Ferritt

I never got a POFA. I suppose I'll argue as the driver. It's actually my partner's claim but I'm trying to sort it for her as she's stressed out.

I have afew days off next week so I'll get this all written up.

The_Deep

This is, in effect, a claim over a 50p underpayment. Surely the Law does not concern itself with such trifles.

Ferritt

Exactly. All this over a 50p underpayment. It's not like most of us have better things to do. All it would have taken is a simple note to say she had underplayed and she would have payed the extra 50p.