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  • ado
    ado Posts: 1,379 Forumite
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    Stoke wrote: »

    The MPS has 43000 staff so 73 being disciplined in a two year period is 0.08% per year, which is hardly endemic corruption or evidence of mass wrong doing despite the title of the article being 'the Shocking Truth about Police Corruption' but then what do you really expect from a DM journalist writing in the Spectator.
  • Stoke
    Stoke Posts: 3,182 Forumite
    ado wrote: »
    The MPS has 43000 staff so 73 being disciplined in a two year period is 0.08% per year, which is hardly endemic corruption or evidence of mass wrong doing despite the title of the article being 'the Shocking Truth about Police Corruption' but then what do you really expect from a DM journalist writing in the Spectator.

    I think the point of the article is to suggest that the police are unwilling to regulate themselves. 73 have been disciplined because the others have been covered up.

    Dunna worry Sarge, we all get it.
  • Car_54
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    ado wrote: »
    The MPS has 43000 staff so 73 being disciplined in a two year period is 0.08% per year, which is hardly endemic corruption or evidence of mass wrong doing despite the title of the article being 'the Shocking Truth about Police Corruption' but then what do you really expect from a DM journalist writing in the Spectator.

    The report actually says "the Met suspended 73 coppers, community support officers and other staff on corruption charges in the past two years.... Eleven were convicted in court, but what happened to the others? ... some were allowed to resign or retire (presumably with full pension rights) and some were dismissed."

    Suspended does not imply guilt, and it is not a punishment, simply a removal from duties while an investigation is held. So all we know for sure (assuming the report is accurate) is that 11 were convicted, and some of the remainding 62 were dismissed, some resigned or retired, and (presumably) some were exonerated.

    But that wouldn't have made for quite such a sensational article.
  • Stoke
    Stoke Posts: 3,182 Forumite
    Car_54 wrote: »
    The report actually says "the Met suspended 73 coppers, community support officers and other staff on corruption charges in the past two years.... Eleven were convicted in court, but what happened to the others? ... some were allowed to resign or retire (presumably with full pension rights) and some were dismissed."

    Suspended does not imply guilt, and it is not a punishment, simply a removal from duties while an investigation is held. So all we know for sure (assuming the report is accurate) is that 11 were convicted, and some of the remainding 62 were dismissed, some resigned or retired, and (presumably) some were exonerated.

    But that wouldn't have made for quite such a sensational article.
    And many of those not included in the statistics were covered up, whistleblowers intimidated etc.
  • Stoke wrote: »
    And many of those not included in the statistics were covered up, whistleblowers intimidated etc.

    Is that just a generalisation from reading the daily mail or are you basing it on something else?
  • Car_54
    Car_54 Posts: 8,859 Forumite
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    Stoke wrote: »
    And many of those not included in the statistics were covered up, whistleblowers intimidated etc.

    Where is the evidence for that? The quoted article says: "Nearly half of 17,200 officers and staff surveyed said that if they discovered corruption among their colleagues and chose to report it, they didn’t believe their evidence would be treated in confidence and would fear ‘adverse consequences'"

    Note the words underlined. Not facts, but speculation.
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