Missed appeal window due to second ticket

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dilby00 wrote: »

Thanks for the replies. I guess I'm just a little disappointed as the ticket was originally just £60 and is now £210.

No, it isn't.

In regards to premier parking

Who are they? I thought your PPC was Premier Park. Details are important here.

the forum advice is to appeal if you want, but to not really bother as it doesn't get anywhere, and to not pay.

No it's not. The BMPA advice is generally that for most PPCs. And it's one view, not a bad one at all as a general piece of advice. But the forum advice (here) is very clearly NOT that and you should have appealed. Never mind, now you have no choice but to sit tight.

There's also advice like this (i know this is nothing to do with money saving expert) that say to ignore all tickets and essentially parking companies never win in court. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUYzBcFLWMA

Errm...how on earth did you dredge that up? It's from 2010, before all sorts of changes including a Supreme Court case (please don't look it up then link the Beavis case as if it's news) and the POFA 2012. Clearly that video is pointless now, seven years later.

But now I just have a bigger ticket

No, you don't. It's £100 (yep, not £210). Or it's nothing, because you won't be paying it.

and my advice seems to be to prepare for a lengthy battle, which seems a shame.

Not really, you saw how few court cases they start, compared with tickets issued, standing at around 60,000 per annum. You worked out the percentage that a mere thirty-six represents, like the BMPA wants you to? Infinitesimally small.

Tiny chance of a claim, and every change to win it if it happened, since we win 99% of defended cases here.

The reason I haven't taken it up with homebase is that i can't find any record at all of it - the payment must have been cash - so I fear that I'd just be admitting fault for no benefit.

Some when you read the first link in the NEWBIES FAQS sticky thread, the click-through link to 'Successful complaints about PPCs' which is a current thread, still going for years and updated only this week with another successful retail complaint, what made you think they all had receipts?

They didn't.

dilby00

Hi all - thanks for the replies. I'll be going through the info in more depth (just off to work) but one thing that is standing out is that a few have said the fine is not 210 but 100. Why is this? My latest letter from the debt collectors is 210.

Coupon-mad

Because they make it up...and it's not a fine.

dilby00

Hi all - unfortunately I've now had the same solicitors start chasing me up for the second parking ticket too, and my wife has asked me to just pay them. She has some bad childhood experiences with debt collectors and for the sake of her anxiety levels, as much as it pains me to do it I'd rather just pay and have this sorted.

As a side note, I actually found the original tweets I sent complaining to the council regarding the other parking fine. Essentially that day no parking ticket machines in the city were working and I sent a complaint to the council along with a photo which they apologised for. I should have just parked there, as I had proof i couldnt pay, but it lead me to park somewhere i thought was ok but later turned out not to be. I took it up with the council but unsurprisingly have got nowhere.

I'm wondering how I go about paying the lesser amount as alluded to before. I've done some reading and can see it's only the 2 lots of £100 I owe, but I can't work out if that will get the solicitors off my back and if I should be paying the parking company who originally invoiced for £100 (it was £60 first) or the solicitors who are now invoicing for £240.

Thanks

Redx

chances are you will be fobbed off to the solicitors who will want the full amount , so although you could try to negotiate it down, its likely to be rejected

chances are that a loss in court would cost you less, so nothing to lose and debt collectors cannot take any action whatsoever

so nothing will happen , they wont come round , no need to worry , nothing can happen without a court order , so if you lose in court , pay the judgment , in full , ASAP , and within the 28 days allowed

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unfortunately I've now had the same solicitors start chasing me up for the second parking ticket too, and my wife has asked me to just pay them

Oh get a grip, don't pay the stupid scam. Your wife is presumably talking about bailiffs.

Not the same thing.

I'm wondering how I go about paying the lesser amount

You can't. It is a scam. There is no debt, you owe nothing, no-one will come knocking.

I can't work out if that will get the solicitors off my back and if I should be paying the parking company who originally invoiced for £100 (it was £60 first) or the solicitors who are now invoicing for £240.

Pleeeease stop trying to work out how to PAY ex-clampers who hardly touch court claims, and when they do, we win and you face NO RISK, not even of a CCJ, as long as you don't ignore court papers:

http://www.bmpa.eu/companydata/Premier_Park.html

Please understand that NO BAILIFFS come round. This is not the same - it's chalk and cheese - debt collector threatogram letters are NOT from bailiffs.

If my OH was mithering on about being scared, what I would do would be to write to the scumbags and give a different (but reachable, where you will get the post) address for myself for service of letters/court papers (e.g. a relative's or friend's address nearby, or an office address if that's OK with your work.

Then I'd tell my husband I had dealt with the issue and no more letters would be arriving (true). You can do that, you can nominate an address for service, as long as it's somewhere you can genuinely be reached by letter.

In your wife's case that stops her anxiety, and you can spend the money on treating her.

And you can laugh at the threatograms as you get them at the other address, keep them there so your wife doesn't worry, and come back if you do get a claim and learn how come we've helped ordinary, scared posters win every single defended case except one, in over a year.

No poster here just pays these scams.