Wood Burning Stoves

Sledgehead

savemoney wrote: »

Dont think they give off the smell or smoke and very little ash also.

What a great load off my mind that is.

If only you'd extend your assurances to the health aspects, I'm sure we'd all sleep safer.

Gloomendoom

Sledgehead wrote: »

London is full of houses with chimneys. And it was in 1956 when they passed the Clean Air Act. Presumably, as well as insisting only smokeless fuels be burned, you would have had people tear down their chimneys, yes? Cars have maybe 120mph on their speedometers. Presumably, according to you, given a car has 120 on its speed dial, it would not be unreasonable to drive it at such a speed? Do you wish I should continue, or have you seen tthe chink in your logic?

Must admit that I missed that the OP lives in a clean air area.

However, your "speed dial" analogy stinks. Driving a car at 120 mph where the law allows and conditions are appropriate is perfectly reasonable, regardless of where its speedometer tops out. I've driven faster myself.

Sledgehead

see below, duplicate

Sledgehead

Gloomendoom wrote: »

However, your "speed dial" analogy stinks. Driving a car at 120 mph where the law allows and conditions are appropriate is perfectly reasonable, regardless of where its speedometer tops out. I've driven faster myself.

But you have your speed dial signaling a poss 120mph even in 30 zones, just like people have chimneys capable of belching possibly smokey fumes even in smokeless zones, from which we can infer, merely having something in a location is no guarantee that its use will be lega ... D'ya know what? I really am wasting my time with you, aren't I?

Forget about it friend. Please, forget I even mentioned it.

Why don't you cajole us with one of your stories about that incredibly impressive motor you clearly have or something.

Gloomendoom

Sledgehead wrote: »

But you have your speed dial signaling a poss 120mph even in 30 zones, just like people have chimneys capable of belching possibly smokey fumes even in smokeless zones, from which we can infer, merely having something in a location is no guarantee that its use will be lega ... D'ya know what? I really am wasting my time with you, aren't I?

Don't undersell yourself. It's not just your own time you are wasting.

Sledgehead

Gloomendoom wrote: »

Don't undersell yourself. It's not just your own time you are wasting.

If it keeps you off the streets, we're all winners.

Gers

teddysmum wrote: »

You must have tried the wrong candles as some smell lovely. The smell of wood smoke from a bonfire is fine, but that from home stoves seems much more concentrated (enough to make me cough, choke or feel suffocated, at peak use time; the next two houses to one side of us has burners).

I'm thinking of all those candles beloved of garden centres and (especially) the 'American' ones. My head hurts just to think about them and my nostrils try to close up. And I don't understand why people want their houses to have such smells in them. Fresh air is free and smells so much better, generally. I live in a rural area so the cattle, sheep and farmer can all provide their own particular smells!

If the burn is hot enough then that's, typically, when you can see and smell the smoke. An inexperienced or casual wood burner user would not realise that. The idyllic view of cottages with smoke curling out of the chimneys is not realistic.

FOREVER21

National news says mayor of London is seeking power to ban certain types of wood burning stoves in parts of London, due to the pollution caused by them.
Hope this might be taken up by other councils, and we might return to “ smokeless zones” which I thought we still had.

Sledgehead

Here, here. Full support for Khan on this. Politically, he's not my cup of tea. On the other hand, if socialists can't protect the health of the wider public from a few spoilt sorts, what use are they?

Nanny state socialism? Maybe, but compare and contrast with Cameron's (never implemented) alcohol levy, or Hammond's sugar tax.

Gers

There was an interesting, if lightweight, item on the Jeremy Vine show this afternoon at about 12.30. Seems that it’s the older wood burner with a particle filter which are the main problem. Nothing about the smell which doesn’t seem to cause a problem, but new regulations are coming into force in 2020 to enforce the retro-fitting of the filter.