2.2 Physics

xapprenticex

Regardless of his degree (which nowadays are like A levels. Masters are the new degrees), as long as he is willing to start from the BOTTOM and work his way up then he should be fine.

If he is one of those grads who think they are entitled because they did a degree then it may be difficult if he wants to land an impressive role in IT right away.

Also IT is SOOOO over saturated, it will be a challenge for anyone. there are 12 year old kids nowadays who can do things that are taught in uni, to be expected seeing that IT is part of life.

purcel

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fraserbooks

One of my sons had difficulty finding his first job as he was very shy and did not interview well. He left university with a basic degree in IT as he did not want to stay an extra year for a dissertation.

However he signed up for an employment agency and was offered a production line job at a large engineering company. After six months the company took him on permanently and a year later was transferred to their IT department. He has now had a couple of promotions and is now married with his own house and a young son.

He still spends too long playing computer games in his bedroom. The point I am trying to make is that there might be other routes to find the job he wants.

Susan1942

Thank you all so much for your suggestions I had not checked the forum as I had mistakenly thought there might not be any further responses.
Not at all does he think that the world owed him a job just because he has a degree.
Rather I think he is frightened of making a mistake. An example of this is when he started school the teachers told his parents that he would not write things down. He would write on the blackboard or on sand by but not write with a pen an paper. Reason was because he could not change it. He was scared he would make a mistake.
I have told him what he does how does not have to define the rest of his life.
He made a mistake in not speaking to his University and telling them he wanted to make an application He would have known if they said no or if they said apply and we will consider it. He is shy and finds it difficult maybe again because they would say no.
He is a man now and has to take on the responsibility.for his future.
I will talk to him about all your suggestions He is going on holiday tomorrow with his girlfriend. The first girlfriend but known her since he started University.
I will chat to him he gets back next week
Thanks again The annoying thing is that he is a clever boy and could have done better. He just lost his enthusiasm for Physics You worry as a Mother and even more as a Grandmother. Sue.,

OldMotherTucker

Susan1942 wrote: »

Thank you all so much for your suggestions I had not checked the forum as I had mistakenly thought there might not be any further responses.
Not at all does he think that the world owed him a job just because he has a degree.
Rather I think he is frightened of making a mistake. An example of this is when he started school the teachers told his parents that he would not write things down. He would write on the blackboard or on sand by but not write with a pen an paper. Reason was because he could not change it. He was scared he would make a mistake.
I have told him what he does how does not have to define the rest of his life.
He made a mistake in not speaking to his University and telling them he wanted to make an application He would have known if they said no or if they said apply and we will consider it. He is shy and finds it difficult maybe again because they would say no.
He is a man now and has to take on the responsibility.for his future.
I will talk to him about all your suggestions He is going on holiday tomorrow with his girlfriend. The first girlfriend but known her since he started University.
I will chat to him he gets back next week
Thanks again The annoying thing is that he is a clever boy and could have done better. He just lost his enthusiasm for Physics You worry as a Mother and even more as a Grandmother. Sue.,

How lucky he is to have you! The smartest and nicest of children loose their path sometimes . . I have a nephew who doubts his choice of degree atm, despite always having excelled in that subject, and he relies greatly on his Grandma to listen to him rather than everyone else who is telling him what he should do.

bugslet

fraserbooks wrote: »

One of my sons had difficulty finding his first job as he was very shy and did not interview well. He left university with a basic degree in IT as he did not want to stay an extra year for a dissertation.

However he signed up for an employment agency and was offered a production line job at a large engineering company. After six months the company took him on permanently and a year later was transferred to their IT department. He has now had a couple of promotions and is now married with his own house and a young son.

He still spends too long playing computer games in his bedroom. The point I am trying to make is that there might be other routes to find the job he wants.

Sometimes if the person is shy, something like that can really bring you out of your shell. And absolutely nothing wrong with doing a manual type job, it gives you an appeciation of what other peoples' lives are like who perhaps do not have the ability to move onto office based work.

Susan1942

Thanks again for your responses. Above everything I want to keep the channels open between us.
I know he will talk me. He sees his Mother being particularly negative and says he does not open to her because of it. While she says she is making all sorts of suggestions he sees that as being judgemental rather than helpful.
I have said to him it is because they care and want the best for him.
I was looking at a web site yesterday that would take Students with a 2.2. Newcastle and Swansea .
I think there are degrees and then degrees. A Physics degree is much harder than some others and a prestigious university maybe more difficult to achieve a higher grade.
Not making excuses and it is done now so had to make the best of what he has.
I have had a look at the link given and I am going to send him that but will wait until after his holiday Sue

Fen1

I was disappointed to read about yours and your grandson's dismissal of "non-prestigious" universities. What is this actually, factually, based on? Oxbridge, for example, might have the cache, but may not actually provide the best courses, nor the best environment, for a student.
Going to a university which offers better pastoral support may be much better for your grandson; a blinkered approach to the university "name" isn't helpful.

Other posters have also recommended practical training and work routes which may well enthuse your grandson, open up his world a bit. He is still young, and the world is his oyster, but he has a lot of competition. Thinking "outside the box" will do him the world of good, and give him a competative edge.

Has he talked to a therapist about his shyness, fear of getting things wrong, unhappy homelife? Living in constant fear is deeply unhealthy. Perhaps you could fund it for him? Getting past this incessant and deeply rooted fear is necessary for a positive future.

Voyager2002

manislactating wrote: »

Hello Job Seekers Allowance.

Grade too low for decent jobs (no shortage of 2.1+ graduates out there already sorry)

Education too high for burger flipping.

Employers for most "decent" jobs take little note of the degree class. Yes: many computerised application systems will screen out applicants with a 2.2, but with a bit of experience he should be able to get through to the interview stage, at which point they will not care about his degree class.

Voyager2002

If he seriously wants to do a Masters degree, he might look at mainland Europe unless he fancies paying tuition fees. He could do a Masters in Computer Science in Norway for absolutely nothing, but of course would need to meet his living expenses in a high-cost country. And in the Netherlands a similar course would cost all of 2,000 Euro, with lower living costs. In both cases the course would be entirely in English.

Obviously this depends on our EU membership, so such options appeal there is no time to waste!