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Large Garden building

HI all,
my partner and I are soon to be moving into our new home which luckily enough is on a large plot.

this will allow me to realise a bit of a dream of having a home dojo/gym. I'd like to go fairly large to allow me to have friends over to train.

So, current plans with all the gear in place would be around 25' x 50'

I wondered what would be the best way to look to construct this?
steel prefabs seem good but really tall, i'm not looking to put motoring lifts in or anything like that, perhaps a training sword above your head and room to throw someone over your shoulder but other than that it just needs to be an open box really.

Very early into planning - litterally just a "i've got room, wonder how much that would cost"

This will give me a 6m x 6m matted area, room to stick gym equipment and room to possibly put a toilet.

any help would be great - of course the dream would be a japanese tea room style building but I think that would go to crazy costs!

down the line I may look to lease the building to other local clubs as there isn't alot about really and there are lots of clubs looking for this size of building but that's a long way down the road and possibly not even worth the hassle.

So anyway - Timber? single skin block? Brick? Butttons?!?

Comments

  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    If looking to go commercial consider traffic, access and parking as part of where on your land you put it.

    That's on top of any planning and building regs for the structure for personal use.
  • TheCyclingProgrammer
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    edited 28 August 2017 at 5:35PM
    I would look into a pre-fabricated room from one of the many garden room suppliers. You may be looking at around £25k but you may find a fully bespoke building will cost you more. For this price you'd be looking at a fully lined and decorated building with insulation, internal electrics etc. I'm using Green Retreats for my Garden Office which is 3x3m and its costing around £15k.

    EDIT: ignore above as I misread the size of the building, see further post below.

    You may be able to construct this for personal use under permitted development however you decide to lease it commercially you'd probably be looking at a planning application for change of use. If this is really important to you you may want to consider applying for planning permission for the building (including its commercial use) up front.
  • getmore4less
    getmore4less Posts: 46,882 Forumite
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    If a 3m sq is costing £15k something over 10 times bigger for £25k would be a bargain.
  • TheCyclingProgrammer
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    edited 28 August 2017 at 5:37PM
    If a 3m sq is costing £15k something over 10 times bigger for £25k would be a bargain.

    I think I misread OP's post because I saw the 6x6m bit and assumed that was the building size.

    Reading again, I make it about 7x14m. OP may struggle to find a garden building provider that does one that big, off the peg anyway.

    It's not going to be cheap, whether its timber frame construction or block/brick.

    It might still technically come under permitted development depending on the height though the LA may challenge that its use is incidental given the size of it and planning will be needed anyway for commercial use.

    OP - my advice would be at this stage to start talking to a couple of local builders.
  • I_have_spoken
    I_have_spoken Posts: 5,051 Forumite
    > I may look to lease the building to other local clubs as there isn't alot about really<

    Unless you're miles from anywhere expect complaints to the council from neighbours about unauthorised change of use and objections to a PP application
  • System
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    That footprint is as big as a 3 bed house easily, if the plot's that big I'd be looking at getting planning permission for another house and selling that rather than building a huge shed!!
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  • Cheers for replies. Might be better to split uses and just get a prefab garage or similar.

    Not looking to get planning permission for another house. Seems rather pointless buying something with land to sell it off.

    As to commercial use, let's not focus on the small point of my post, the emphasis was on the actual build of the commercial use became problematic I wouldn't bother.

    So yes, maybe two of the larger summerhouses next to each other would be better
  • Clive_Woody
    Clive_Woody Posts: 5,968 Forumite
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    edited 29 August 2017 at 11:33AM
    A quick browse on Google came up with this (probably not cheap)

    http://www.rookerybarns.com/

    http://www.gh-construction.co.uk/
    "We act as though comfort and luxury are the chief requirements of life, when all that we need to make us happy is something to be enthusiastic about” – Albert Einstein
  • datostar
    datostar Posts: 1,288 Forumite
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    My wife used to work for a firm that made loose boxes and other equestrian and agricultural type timber buildings and also did bespoke orders for people wanting large structures like the OP envisages. Might be worth googling for that type of supplier who could well be cheaper and more flexible than the garden building types.
  • Grenage
    Grenage Posts: 3,222 Forumite
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    Get the area nice and flat, and simply train outside. Fresh air, tens of thousands saved!
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