Can employer to tell you to shave your beard off?

ohreally

lillie421 wrote: »

They cannot tell you to shave your beard off as this is against your human rights.

They can and they have.

surreysaver

sangie595 wrote: »

Are you a Muslim, Sikh, or a member of another religious or cultural group where beard wearing is a requirement? If not, the answer is yes, they can.

But surely, if people of certain religions are allowed to have beards, it then follows that it is religious discrimination not to allow those not of those religions not to have beards? If you allow it for some, you have to allow it for all.

gardner1

nemq wrote: »

Can an employer to tell you to shave your beard off? My job involves working front of house greeting customers. If I refuse to shave it, can I be fired and if so I doubt I can claim JSA. Not sure what to do if I have to shave it off then I will but I'd rather not. (Sorry if it's in the wrong section....I can't post in the CAB basic rights at work section).

Depends how much you like the job

Guest101

surreysaver wrote: »

But surely, if people of certain religions are allowed to have beards, it then follows that it is religious discrimination not to allow those not of those religions not to have beards? If you allow it for some, you have to allow it for all.

What? No that is most definitely not how it works.

Wake_up_call

If you claim you are Muslim, they can't exactly go about proving you're not. In today's world of self-identity, you can claim to be what you like.

motorguy

surreysaver wrote: »

But surely, if people of certain religions are allowed to have beards, it then follows that it is religious discrimination not to allow those not of those religions not to have beards? If you allow it for some, you have to allow it for all.

No.

If someone is doing something based on religious beliefs then it doesnt mean that not allowing everyone to have those behaviours is discrimination.

You have the right not to be discriminated against due to your religious beliefs. You dont have the right not to be discriminated against because of someone elses religious beliefs.

motorguy

Wake_up_call wrote: »

If you claim you are Muslim, they can't exactly go about proving you're not. In today's world of self-identity, you can claim to be what you like.

I dont expect that would end well and i seriously wouldnt recommend it.

Guest101

Wake_up_call wrote: »

If you claim you are Muslim, they can't exactly go about proving you're not. In today's world of self-identity, you can claim to be what you like.

That doesn't actually work as most people suggest it does (or should).


- I mean I don't agree with it at any rate. You can identify as you like, but that doesn't mean i'll go along with it.

sangie595

andygb wrote: »

That is a load of old tosh, there is no "requirement" for them to have beards, it is a conscious decision based on culture.
I know muslim and sikh men who do not have beards.

Who you know is irrelevant, and I am not going to get into a race debate here, because they never turn out well. The devout practice of Islam and Sikhism requires the adherent to be bearded. There is already case law that says that an employer commits indirect discrimination against these groups unless they can justify extenuating circumstances for insisting on no beards (health and safety grounds for example). So opinions as to whether they should wear beards, or whether the law should allow them to have different rules or not are all irrelevant. The law says this already. So the answer is that unless the OP falls within a group who can justifiably claim cultural or religious requirements for being bearded, the employer can insist.

Silvertabby

Did you have the beard when you first started this job - or have you suddenly decided to adopt an 'action man toy' look?