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World tracker that trackers all stocks

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Is there a world equity tracker that tracks all markets across the world (EM / Developed) in their correct proportion, including small caps? I think Vanguard trackers have a higher proportion of UK investments, I am looking for something that would result in a share of almost every traded stock in the known universe.
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Vanguard's trackers track indexes just like everyone else's. You might be confusing them with their LifeStrategy product which is a fund of trackers where they have set the allocations themselves. It is not a tracker itself0
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I was reading that vanguards trackers have a higher % of the UK stockmarket, (25% of the equity investments of any vanguard lifestyle fund is invested in the UK, whereas the UK stock market just represents 8% of the total vaule of the world stock market). I am looking at something that tracks all the stocks in all of the world, in their correct proportions.0
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This is what I need to track --
MSCI ACWI All Cap Index: Covers more than 14,000 securities and includes large, mid, small and micro-cap size segments for all developed markets countries plus large, mid and small-cap size segments for emerging markets.0 -
I don't think it's as important as you might think, including the small caps of each market.
They would have such a small presence in the total index that their performance would be barely felt unless something quite spectacularly odd happened to small caps globally.I am one of the Dogs of the Index.0 -
Does the ETF SSAC from iShares do what you want ? It does not seem to have full replication of 14000 stocks but holds 1134 stocks and has as its benchmark the MSCI ACWI.
See:
https://www.ishares.com/uk/individual/en/products/251850/ishares-msci-acwi-ucits-etf
My only comment for an ETF it seems a bit expensive at 0.60% TER.0 -
I was reading that vanguards trackers have a higher % of the UK stockmarket, (25% of the equity investments of any vanguard lifestyle fund is invested in the UK, whereas the UK stock market just represents 8% of the total vaule of the world stock market). I am looking at something that tracks all the stocks in all of the world, in their correct proportions.
The Vanguard Lifestrategy funds are not trackers.
If you want a tracker then you should stick with trackers and not a multi-asset fund. Vanguard trackers do track their respective areas.I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.0 -
Vanguard FTSE Global All Cap Index Fund seems to be the closest thing that I can find to a fund that attempts to track everything. It has 4881 stocks.0
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Does the ETF SSAC from iShares do what you want ? It does not seem to have full replication of 14000 stocks but holds 1134 stocks and has as its benchmark the MSCI ACWI.
See:
https://www.ishares.com/uk/individual/en/products/251850/ishares-msci-acwi-ucits-etf
My only comment for an ETF it seems a bit expensive at 0.60% TER.
SPDR MSCI ACWI UCITS ETF https://www.trustnet.com/Factsheets/Factsheet.aspx?fundCode=05FTH&univ=E&typeCode=F05TH follows the same index with an OCF of 0.4%0 -
Yes, Vanguard FTSE Global All Cap Index Fund Is the closest to what you’re looking for. Cheap as well.0
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I am looking at something that tracks all the stocks in all of the world, in their correct proportions.
If you take the Shanghai or Shenzhen stock exchange for example. China is home to 1.4 billion people (getting on for 20% of world population). Combine it with India you are probably over 35% of world population. So, you might think you'd like to allocate a decent proportion of your money to those countries. However, due to the way the markets are structured, a 'Westerner' can't just rock up and invest his billions or trillions in the Chinese stock exchange. There have historically been serious restrictions on what shares classes of what companies you can buy as a non local, and you will have practical access problems as well as significant liquidity problems even if you could get in, because the market is not very efficient.
Same in Russia. The biggest company might in theory be worth $x hundred billion but perhaps only 5% of it is in free float with the other 95% controlled by the state and a politically connected oligarch.
So, the index publishers such as FTSE or MSCI have to work around these problems and create an index allocating your money to the biggest companies by 'free float' market capitalisation with liquidity rules to sift out the minnows or the tough markets when building something like FTSE's "global all-cap index". Then having come up with their ~8000 stocks that make up the index (of which only 2.33% is China and 1.2% is India and 0.34% is Russia - for under 3.9% total) you will find anyone building an index fund to track it will use sampling techniques and optimisation to hold a lot fewer than 8000 stocks.
So, "I just want to hold all the stocks in the world in their 'correct' proportions" is a hollow and impractical request. You can't access all the stocks in the world without huge expense and impracticality and it will be a proportion that is reflective of what is easy to do, rather than something that allocates your money to places that have the highest GDP, consumer population etc.ChesterDog wrote: »I don't think it's as important as you might think, including the small caps of each market.
They would have such a small presence in the total index that their performance would be barely felt unless something quite spectacularly odd happened to small caps globally.
However as you suggest, smallcap is a tiny part of the market if you are allocating your money across stocks the simplest and cheapest way in a single fund, i.e. by market capitalisation.
In the UK for example, the FTSE All-share index at end of July represented companies having free float market cap of £2,374 billion (i.e. almost £2.4 trillion). The largest component within that was the FTSE 100 stocks (and indeed the biggest ten of those 100 were 35% of the £2.4 trillion mentioned and the next 90 were another 40%+). Whereas the companies making up the small-cap end of that £2.4 trillion were less than 4%, i.e. under £0.09 tn
So, imagine you can earn 9% on smallcaps and 8% on midcaps and 7% on large-to-mega. Perhaps it maybe makes sense to put a third into each of those share classes to average out the returns and volatility to something acceptable. However if you don't do that because you want an all in one policy to instead follow that sort of simple 'all-share marketcap mix' you might find yourself getting an extra percent-and-a-half on the smallcaps... but the smallcaps are under 4% of your portfolio... so your total enhancement to returns is something like 0.05%.
A twentieth of a percent on your returns is - figuratively - nothing, as your annual returns might be +15% or -40%. Nobody really cares if it's +15.05% or -39.95% instead. You would likely see a larger differential in return than that if (for example) you put 10% into China, India and Russia instead of taking the index standard allocation of less than 4%.0
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